Comments Thread For: Marquez on Facing Pacquiao at 144, Golden Boy, Fine

[mr_kamado10]

fair enough.....most of the cash cows wants the advantages all the time...but hey can u blame them?? i guess not...beggars cant be choosers right??

pac vs jmm is within WW....jmm weight in 145 against katsidis...should we blame katsidis for fighting a lightweight??

Marquez weight at fightnight was 145lbs when he fought Katsidis.....All Pacman fights at higher weight were around 147-148lbs.....not much different...

[WESS]

its the only one that popped up because its the only one...and because pac was drained for that fight....but yeah he came in overweight 12 years ago...when pacquiao was a nobody....but hey the fact is he was overweight...so props to you....

did he came in overweight in any of his recent fight?? just asking...

There is none. I was just pointing out that Pac has come in overweight where as Mayweather paid to come in over agreed weight. Both are wrong yet Pac was punished where as Floyd paid to change a contract before the fight. Wrong due to the advantage but not illegal.

[WESS]

as usual, you should look at the context of the situation.

Pac came in overweight not because he wanted to, but BECAUSE HE COULD NOT. Why do you think he lost? He lost cuz he was killing himself to reach the weight limit.

Pac only came in overweight twice, AND HE LOST BOTH TIMES.

Rustico Torrecampo in February 1996 and Medgoen Singsurat in September 1999.

that tells you one of two things:

either Pac is a TERRIBLE CHEATER, or Pac simply didn't manage his weight well then and came at the fight overweight and drained.

and another thing. look at the dates of those losses. that was more than TEN YEARS AGO. Pac was an immature champion then. Obviously, he learned his lesson and watched his weight since then since he NEVER came overweight since that time on.

Hey judge how you wish. I was asked to show that Pac came in overweight during a professional fight. I did. What ever reason you think is right when comparing Mayweather paying to be overweight and Pac being overweight is all on you. I'm just pointing out that Pac in fact was wrong in the sport of boxing and was stripped of his title. Where as Mayweather paid to change the contract before the fight. That's not illegal. That's just wanting an advantage. Much like fighting Cotto at a CW where as De La Hoya had no CW even though we all know why.

Its all about advantages and Pacs wants his just like Mayweather wants his. At the end of the day I don't hold a grudge on Pac for coming in overweight. I'm a fan of his up until 2008. Its been down hill since much thanks to bob.

[JoeDaWg]

This fight sucks, jmm isn't gonna get passed 5 rounds with this version of pac.

Hoya is never going to let it happen. Not after mosely was taken from him .

Fishnet's doesn't have a choice, no way he can match that offer

[lopez36]

i wonder why this site or any other site hasn't brought up the topic of mosley talking about how one of manny's ex sparring partners saying manny used steroids before the oscar fight....it was on espn last night and i read it on the univision spanish site...saying how manny used steroids and how easy it is for him to get it in his country,how manny never wanted to cheat but just get bigger for the oscar fight,it's an interesting article and i'm wondering why it hasn't been mentioned here on boxingscene..of course it could be a made up story

[kidrak]

Don't be so ****** kid.

FACT: If I ever met you in the street, I would say whatever the *** I want, and you would shut your mouth, crawl up your own asss, and *** off.

Go *** yourself clown.

question..why do the mayweather mosley cotto fans hate pac a lot?? is this jealousy??

[kidrak]

Only 1 million for LW JMM but 10 million for Mayweather...... Keeping it standard I see.

hahaha coz floyd failed the weight against marquez..his a proven cheater dumbas!

[kidrak]

Hardly, as Pac has in fact come in overweight more than Floyd. Floyd paid to break contract and came in the weight he paid to come in at.

Pac on the other hand just came in overweight.... a few times.... not to mention he has been busted for using the wrong size gloves...

are you serious?? manny was overweight because he really cant get the weigth and that fight was a title fight while floyd really intended to go overweight to have advantages!!

[WESS]

hahaha coz floyd failed the weight against marquez..his a proven cheater dumbas!

Prove that Floyd "failed" to make weight for the weigh in like Pac did In 1999.

[WESS]

are you serious?? manny was overweight because he really cant get the weigth and that fight was a title fight while floyd really intended to go overweight to have advantages!!

Sounds like excuses to me. The problem we have here is that Floyd changed the contract while Pac came in overweight and was stripped of his title. What Pac did was illegal. What Floyd did was not. Big difference you silly silly silly goose.