JeFF Mayweather: What I Saw Won't Beat Floyd

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Yea I'm talking about the hatton that PAC ko in rd2.. Based on floyds performance even though he won PAC destroyed hatton instead.. Same with Oscar.. I mean since Jeff wants to make his opinion based on peformance right? Even tho PAC won every round against Mosley Jeff think that was a poor performance and base on that he feel Floyd will beat manny well based on the Oscar and hatton performance PAC eat floyd alive..

Its not WHO you fight, it's WHEN you fight them.

Shane has looked completely washed up in his last fight and was dominated the fight b4 that. Pac still couldn't figure out how to cut off the ring.

And that's your opinion. I say, based Floyds performace against Hatton and Oscar, Pac STILL gets outboxed and made to look kinda ordinary.

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lol he gives idiotic *******s a horrible name. like i said be a fan but don't ride his ****

Some of them can't help it. It's irresistable! :smileysex:

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Two rounds? Really? Did you even watch the Mayweather/Mosley fight? Shane rocked him with one punch and really rocked him but Mayweather recovered and at the least made the round even. Unless you're giving Mosely the first round which was a feeling out round and round two for one punch, Mosely didn't win a round. Mosely was just as discouraged in the fight with Mayweather as he was in the Pac fight. Mayweather made him scared to throw just as Pac did. Second, If Mayweather agreed to all terms to include money split,ring size, glove size and venue but, only requested OST testing and Manny declined. Who is ducking whom? If Manny accepts the testing the fight is done. Period. A REAL fight fan knows that you don't jump 4 weight classes in 20 months and carry effective punching power. In sports, if something is extra extraordinary it usually isn't right. Why aren't you Pac fans saying ok, we believe our guy is clean just take the test and show these *****s. Instead you're saying we know he's clean and he shouldn't have to prove it to anyone!

Because GOD is infallible! DUHHH!!! Don't you know anything dude?

It's right there in their bible...Pacquiao I: Chapter 4 Verse 2

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Its not WHO you fight, it's WHEN you fight them.

Shane has looked completely washed up in his last fight and was dominated the fight b4 that. Pac still couldn't figure out how to cut off the ring.

And that's your opinion. I say, based Floyds performace against Hatton and Oscar, Pac STILL gets outboxed and made to look kinda ordinary.

Yet PAC won all 12 rounds against Shane correct? So I don't see how u can based this off as poor performance and say Floyd will win.. How will u know if Floyd will fight the same way Shane did against PAC and how will u know if PAC will fight the same way against Shane with Floyd??

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To all pacman haters...just keep on your hopes for a fighter that will beat him and hope for a positive drug test result

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Two rounds? Really? Did you even watch the Mayweather/Mosley fight? Shane rocked him with one punch and really rocked him but Mayweather recovered and at the least made the round even. Unless you're giving Mosely the first round which was a feeling out round and round two for one punch, Mosely didn't win a round. Mosely was just as discouraged in the fight with Mayweather as he was in the Pac fight. Mayweather made him scared to throw just as Pac did. Second, If Mayweather agreed to all terms to include money split,ring size, glove size and venue but, only requested OST testing and Manny declined. Who is ducking whom? If Manny accepts the testing the fight is done. Period. A REAL fight fan knows that you don't jump 4 weight classes in 20 months and carry effective punching power. In sports, if something is extra extraordinary it usually isn't right. Why aren't you Pac fans saying ok, we believe our guy is clean just take the test and show these *****s. Instead you're saying we know he's clean and he shouldn't have to prove it to anyone!

green k, sir. from a fellow ohioian,( assuming that's where you live because of the home if the buckeyes )

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Yet PAC won all 12 rounds against Shane correct? So I don't see how u can based this off as poor performance and say Floyd will win.. How will u know if Floyd will fight the same way Shane did against PAC and how will u know if PAC will fight the same way against Shane with Floyd??

As experienced as Jeff is, you would think he would know better than to think that a fighter fights every opponent the same exact way. Of course Pac looked open for counters. Why would he fights defensively if Shane wasnt firing anything? Now had Shane stood his ground and gave Pac a fight, i'm sure Pac would have tightened up his defense.

What I dont understand is, If according to Floyd Sr, Roger, and Jeff.......If Pac is so one dimensional, will be easy work, cant box for ****, etc, then why are they so worried about what Pac brings to the table and demand he submit dna as if he were David Banner?

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Yet PAC won all 12 rounds against Shane correct? So I don't see how u can based this off as poor performance and say Floyd will win.. How will u know if Floyd will fight the same way Shane did against PAC and how will u know if PAC will fight the same way against Shane with Floyd??

Not everyone saw it that way, but u could argue that, ok.

Because he had a 39 year old fighter completely shot in front of him, that after the 3rd round was running from him, yet he still frustrated Pac with a weak jab and lots of movement. There is ZERO chance of floyd fighting like Shane did. Firstly, FMJ has actual defense. He is an defensive genius as well as offensive(when he wants to use it). Shane was primary a puncher/boxer(notice the order?). His whole thing has been his speed, his power and his heart. They are two TOTALLY different animals.

Floyd acutally has a jab. He can control the distance with Pac. When Pac misses the way he did with Mosley, he can make him pay. He IS the best counter puncher in the game. Now, if you take all of that and apply it to what you saw against Mosley, only Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder can't see that it would be lots of trouble for Pac(by the way, I actually think they can see it too).

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Yet PAC won all 12 rounds against Shane correct? So I don't see how u can based this off as poor performance and say Floyd will win.. How will u know if Floyd will fight the same way Shane did against PAC and how will u know if PAC will fight the same way against Shane with Floyd??

it just flat out wasn't his best performance, he couldn't cut the ring open, was wide open forcounters and leads, Mosley couldn't pull the trigger and was backpedaling, so Cong**** Pac you landed a had shot and had Mosley shook, but you still looked bad and wide open, his leg problem against boxers with movement is a problem for him. Mayweather was toying with Shane, like he did with Marquez. Manny beat Mosley and rocked him, can't take that away, but he couldn't cut the ring off, and had a poor jab that night, something you need against Floyd, if you couldn't land an effective jab against an old, slower Mosley with shorter arms, how is he going to against Floyd. No jab, no chance.

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As experienced as Jeff is, you would think he would know better than to think that a fighter fights every opponent the same exact way. Of course Pac looked open for counters. Why would he fights defensively if Shane wasnt firing anything? Now had Shane stood his ground and gave Pac a fight, i'm sure Pac would have tightened up his defense.

What I dont understand is, If according to Floyd Sr, Roger, and Jeff.......If Pac is so one dimensional, will be easy work, cant box for ****, etc, then why are they so worried about what Pac brings to the table and demand he submit dna as if he were David Banner?

Whether he fights an opponent one way or not, that is part of who Pac is. His defense isn't good and he is open to counters.

Please show me one fight where Pac hasn't been open for lots and lots AND LOTS of counters?

Please show me one fight where Pac has EVER shown what we would call "good defense".

I'll wait