James Tillis said Tyson punched like a girl and I beat him"

[physiker]

Well if TIllis who fought both Shavers and Tyson, said Tyson hit harder, that would say a lot.

Of course, if true, TIllis fought Shavers 5 years after Ali did. Ali said Shavers was the heaviest hitter, and hit harder than Foreman. But maybe lost some steam by the later date--when he was 37?

[catskills23]

Well if TIllis who fought both Shavers and Tyson, said Tyson hit harder, that would say a lot.

Of course, if true, TIllis fought Shavers 5 years after Ali did. Ali said Shavers was the heaviest hitter, and hit harder than Foreman. But maybe lost some steam by the later date--when he was 37?

Tillis never said Tyson hit harder than Shavers.

[physiker]

Tillis never said Tyson hit harder than Shavers.

So prinzeman was wrong or fibbing?

[catskills23]

Well if TIllis who fought both Shavers and Tyson, said Tyson hit harder, that would say a lot.

Of course, if true, TIllis fought Shavers 5 years after Ali did. Ali said Shavers was the heaviest hitter, and hit harder than Foreman. But maybe lost some steam by the later date--when he was 37?

So prinzeman was wrong or fibbing?

Tillis said it directly after his fight with Tyson but he didnt mean it.

[physiker]

Tillis said it directly after his fight with Tyson but he didnt mean it.

how do u know that?

[nomadman]

Tillis did give Tyson a very competitive fight.Tyson wasn't far away from winning a title,but he was still learning at that point.Tillis had the style and smarts to give Tyson problems.He still lost the fight fair and square,though.Four rounds at most,no more than that.



Tillis is actually on record as saying that Tyson hit harder than Shavers,so I'm not sure what's happened recently that prompted him to change his mind.Slightly delusional and perhaps a little a bitter,maybe.

That's why I tend not to pay much attention to what fighters say about other fighters. There's too much emotion, self-aggrandizing and bad blood that goes into their words for me to take them at face value. Not to mention the fact that it's almost impossible for a fighter to tell who hit them harder than whom when the method of ascertaining that power (their brain) is being mashed to a pulp at the time.

For me, I think Tyson definitely punched harder than Shavers just by doing a side-by-side analysis of their stoppages. His power is a tad overrated, but to nowhere near the same degree as Shavers, whose entire reputation as the GOAT puncher rests almost entirely upon what other fighters have said about him (see my above paragraph on what I think of that).

[catskills23]

how do u know that?

Because in every interview since the Tyson fight icluding his autobiography he has said Shavers punched the hardest . He said in a recent interview that Tyson punched like a girl compared to Shavers.

[ßringer]

I like the fact that he waited 20 years, just to make sure of his safety.

Wouldn't you?

[nomadman]

Because in every interview since the Tyson fight icluding his autobiography he has said Shavers punched the hardest . He said in a recent interview that Tyson punched like a girl compared to Shavers.

Did Holmes say that as well?

[catskills23]

Did Holmes say that as well?

holmes said shavers punched much harder than tyson.