Was the Tarver v Johnson decision a robbery?

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  • Soundtraveler
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    #51
    I understand some Tarver fans being upset, but at the same time, I have seen MUCH worse decisions in this sport, to me Johnson did enough to win it, and I really don't pay much attention to Compu Box numbers, I saw Johnson picking off Tarvers' punches with his elbows and gloves all night long.

    I must admit though, it was a very entertaining fight, and in the end I scored it a draw because Tarver lost the 10th and the 11th rounds and perhaps didn't even do enough to "win" the 12th although I, myself, gave it to him by a VERY slight margin in the final round....

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    • PacKillsMorales
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      #52
      ok too tired (Ostoned) to read all the posts..
      heres my verdict having NOT seen the fight.

      if most (is it most) people score it 116-114 tarver
      how is johnson getting 115-113 twice controversial.

      from the commentary it appeared johnson threw more punches
      and tarver landed the bigger shots..

      seems the judges scored based on aggression as we know
      they do..and the commentators always point it out (yawn)

      its about time the system was al least reviewed though..
      because unless theres a ko these big fights can be a joke.

      maybe johnson did actually win..
      maybe byrd and ruiz beat golota..

      or they did enough for the judges.
      just hope pac - jmm aint marred by more controversy..

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      • DR. FREECLOUD
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        #53
        compubox is a joke. if they are gonna do compubox they might as well do effective aggressivness and ring generalship and defense as well. as st pointed out alot of those punches tarver threw were sliding off tarvers gloves and arms. he had no aggressiveness, no ring generalship and a decent defense. that being said i thought tarver landed more clean punches, his aggressivness was definately effective at keeping tarver backpeddaling, clearly ring generalship was better than tarvers but defense was less than tarvers. another thing to take into consideration when reading the judges score cards is that we at home obviously get the best view. the 3 judges are seated at 3 different side of the ring. therefore each judge sees a different perspective. what one judge sees may not be visable from where one of the other judges is sitting. what may be missed could be very important. personally i thought it was a robbery the first time i watched it. but then i went back and watched it a few more times. taking all these things into consideration i scored it closer to a draw but if i had to choose who won it would have been johnson.

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        • kadyo's
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          #54
          Johnson won because he brought his fight to tarver while tarver backpedaled most of the time. It was a difficult fight to judge I admit and the judge who gave tarver 4 points advantage after the fight must have put some money on the man. Damn, how can that be 4 points! Compubox are well... compubox!, they cannot judge!

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          • jabsRstiff
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            #55
            I thought tarver EDGED Johnson....but I wasn't bothered by the decision.
            There was not a whole lot to choose between the two.

            A rematch would suit everyone.....

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