Comments Thread For: Marquez Gets Pacquiao Offer, Golden Matching Not Likely

[Eaner0919]

come on. Many posters have stated "repeatedly" that weight wont matter in this fight because come fight night they'll be practically on the same weight.

JMM and his team made a mistake with the floyd fight because they focused more on increasing JMM's power. and we know it didnt worked out because it sacrificed his speed and technique.

Now all they have to do is go and make the weight that is most comfortable to JMM.

so how do you think Gatti would have fared as a middleweight?

oops Dazed beat me to it

[I_like_wendys]

I reckon one of the main reasons for not fighting at 140 is there wouldn't be a belt on the line. Unless Marquez were to fight a belt holder before then (but I think he's fighting David Diaz if I'm not mistaken).

For all intents and purposes, Manny IS still the Lineal Champ at 140, even if he never plans on defending it.

It may not be symbolized by a physical belt, but it means alot more than his WBO Alphabet so on and so on.

[Twako]

JMM was the most deserving. That ship has sailed. And that ship was NEVER on welter island. Such idiocy.

you want pac to dehydrate to 135, and at the same time you said he's ducking sergio at 154? what an idiot

[Twako]

so how do you think Gatti would have fared as a middleweight?

oops Dazed beat me to it

do you think pac's ducking sergio at 154?

[IMDAZED]

so how do you think Gatti would have fared as a middleweight?

oops Dazed beat me to it

Basically. I expect only d*ckriders like Top Rank to come on here using the fight night weight excuse. Any REAL boxing fan understands how relative that is. It's not some brush you can paint everyone with. "Oh, they'll weigh the same on fight night!" Christ.

[rocky_balboa23]

Unfortunately, Marquez has done squat at 147 (and 140) and thus there is no need to pretend what you saw at 130 will resurface again. Need I remind you that Marquez' legs are damn near gone. Any astute poster (Shadows, jro, Silencers?) probably has already noticed that. He still has good hand speed and an amazing offensive arsenal but he must stand right in front of you to do it. And due to his slower reflexes, he gets hit a lot more (see Katsidis bout--a guy who couldn't hold Marquez' jockstrap in his prime). So Manny gets another opponent who will stand right in front of him. At welter, a weight where Marquez looked like the blob. Joy.

BTW, always take a look at your avi whenever you hear some buffoon talk about fight night weight.

It's not a secret that JMM is a slower now but he has the technique and the "HEART" to compete and win against Pacquiao.

You cant say that to other boxers. I still believe Pac would KO JMM and I would love to see that because of MArquez' whining.

Go on and underestimate this guy. It's fine and reasonable but you cant dictate what my mind wants to think because I will not make the same mistake again as to underestimate Marquez.

[ELPERRO]

Wow...How can GBP match that!

Canelo is to heavy, a Bradley fight wont sell or a judah. A mayweather rematch will not sell.

The only fighter I can think of that comes close to reaching big numbers is a fight with MORALES.

maybe ORTIZ.

DE LA HOYA!!!! u got 6 months to get in shape and fight Marquez @ 145 on HBO PPV.

[ChiTown2Diego]

Many of those posters are d*ckriding Manny fans or people who think every human body works the same. Fight night weight doesn't even things out when one person is packing pounds his body doesn't need/want. Look no further than the fighter in your avi to kill that noise. Do you think Gatti would have been successful at 160? 168? Because he was capable of getting that high on fight night.


That was two years ago. Marquez is even slower and far more flat-footed. At welter, it'll be even worse.

You mean the weight most comfortable to Pacquiao, which is why there is a catchweight of (surprise!) 145lbs.

You do realize that JMM doesn't have to weigh 145lbs at the weigh-in?

Pac calls the shots. He's been fighting comfortably between 144-146 lbs in his last four fights. Why would he choose to cut weight? Doesn't make sense. JMM is the one coming after him. JMM is a grown man. He is free to not accept the terms. Now that that's understood, who knows Manny (in the ring) better than Marquez?

I'm not a big fan of this fight but who is Manny supposed to fight? Bradley, while a viable option, I think gets beat easier than JMM gets beat. Ortiz is with GBP and a Martinez fight, while fan friendly, IMO is a circus fight.

[johncods]

stop getting so bent out of shape when it involves Pacquiao it's not a good look

we we ALL realize Manny will dictate the terms

but I think we ALL know this fight shouldn't be at anything above 140 we ALL realized how crappy JMM looked fighting above 140 and I think we ALL would like to see an actual fight rather than a sacrifice (except for maybe you and those solely Manny fans)

and no they really aren't the same size

Come on man. Pac weighs in around 148 fight night. Like I said if Marquez is smart he comes in at his best weight around 144. What's the big deal? Pac's been fighting dudes on average 10 pounds heavier than him and he gets criticized, now you still gonna criticize him for being what 4 pounds heavier this time than his opponent? Not to mention some mother****ers actually want him to fight the MW champ?

Oh well haters gonna hate.

[IMDAZED]

It's not a secret that JMM is a slower now but he has the technique and the "HEART" to compete and win again Pacquiao.

You cant say that to other boxers. I still believe Pac would KO JMM and I would love to see that because of MArquez' whining.

Go on and underestimate this guy. It's fine and reasonable but you cant dictate what my mind wants to think because I will not make the same mistake again as to underestimate Marquez.

Not trying to dictate anything to you. As long as we understand that all that fight night weight means squat then REGARDLESS of what you think, it's a matchup between Pacquiao and older, slower Marquez with no business at welter. Period. On PPV. Once again.