Mayweather is going to get persecuted on ESPN Today.

[TaurusJ27]

On pti they had a great discussion if pacquiao keeps on having fights like this one his legacy will take a real blow.

[MrRolltide91]

On pti they had a great discussion if pacquiao keeps on having fights like this one his legacy will take a real blow.

yep and they are right too.

[jayhova29]

there were 2 negotiations.


Ross Greenburg already confirmed this.

why do you clownshoes love to perpetuate lies?

the 2nd time Manny agreed to the ridiculous demands of OSDT 14 day cut off and he actually conceded to 7 days.


Floyd didn't even schedule a fight. He went on vacation. Just LOL @ this bull****e post

There were 2 negotiations, i assume your talking about the one in the summer with the war of the words between and hbo exec with a date to fill and a shady promoter trying to disgrace his former employee. And what part of random , dont you understand, random means no cut off, not I know in advance when the last day im going to be tested isn't that the same reason the fight didn't happen in March 2010. So wtf does he think that offer still stands, after the mosley fight last year mayweather said he wanted testing up until fight night, so a month later they had negotiations, and according to you pacquiao said he would agree to an offer that was off the table 6 months ago, and you blame mayweather.

To me its simple, not only did team pacquiao look like they had something to hide in January, during the end of those negotiations, Bob arum left and went to strike a deal with Clottey (before they even concluded their talks with Mayweather). Fighters have their own agendas and promoters have their's. Arum went through the motions of trying to get a fight with mayweather, because he had, he had to say they tried. He knew dam well that Mayweather wasn't going to fight and damm sure not as early as November. He promised Margarito a date in November before they had "those so called 2nd talks." Just like he promised Jerry Jones a Pacquiao fight on March 13th 2010. Dont believe the hype man, team pac has been pissed since last january, not to mention he left those talks to fight clottey for 6million, while mayweather left and fought Mosley for close to 30mil, not only did he show them up at the negotiation table but they got embarrassed at the box office. IF Mayweather is running now, or has been since the summer, what was manny doing when he didn't wanna except, the same random blood test, and according to you revised cut off date, that ALL OF A SUDDEN he's willing to except now. Riddle me that. Im not saying there was never a 2nd attempt to negotiate, im saying that was more of a public relations, sway public opinion move, than a real proposal to fight.

[Rassclot]

There were 2 negotiations, i assume your talking about the one in the summer with the war of the words between and hbo exec with a date to fill and a shady promoter trying to disgrace his former employee. And what part of random , dont you understand, random means no cut off, not I know in advance when the last day im going to be tested isn't that the same reason the fight didn't happen in March 2010. So wtf does he think that offer still stands, after the mosley fight last year mayweather said he wanted testing up until fight night, so a month later they had negotiations, and according to you pacquiao said he would agree to an offer that was off the table 6 months ago, and you blame mayweather.

To me its simple, not only did team pacquiao look like they had something to hide in January, during the end of those negotiations, Bob arum left and went to strike a deal with Clottey (before they even concluded their talks with Mayweather). Fighters have their own agendas and promoters have their's. Arum went through the motions of trying to get a fight with mayweather, because he had, he had to say they tried. He knew dam well that Mayweather wasn't going to fight and damm sure not as early as November. He promised Margarito a date in November before they had "those so called 2nd talks." Just like he promised Jerry Jones a Pacquiao fight on March 13th 2010. Dont believe the hype man, team pac has been pissed since last january, not to mention he left those talks to fight clottey for 6million, while mayweather left and fought Mosley for close to 30mil, not only did he show them up at the negotiation table but they got embarrassed at the box office. IF Mayweather is running now, or has been since the summer, what was manny doing when he didn't wanna except, the same random blood test, and according to you revised cut off date, that ALL OF A SUDDEN he's willing to except now. Riddle me that. Im not saying there was never a 2nd attempt to negotiate, im saying that was more of a public relations, sway public opinion move, than a real proposal to fight.

yes that 2nd negotiation was a real negotiation = fact

so you were incorrect, go back and correct yourself about that only 1 real negotiation bull****.

mayweather was initially fine with 14 days. pac agreed to 7 days and mayweather moved the goalppost then walked away = fact.

history will blame the person that walked away last.


like any negotiation.... you can make counter-offers back and forth all day but the guy that walked away from the table last is the one to blame for the deal not materializing.

who walked away last?


You = clownshoe

[jayhova29]

yes that 2nd negotiation was a real negotiation = fact

so you were incorrect, go back and correct yourself about that only 1 real negotiation bull****.

mayweather was initially fine with 14 days. pac agreed to 7 days and mayweather moved the goalppost then walked away = fact.

history will blame the person that walked away last.


like any negotiation.... you can make counter-offers back and forth all day but the guy that walked away from the table last is the one to blame for the deal not materializing.

who walked away last?


You = clownshoe

Mayweather stated at the end of his fight with Mosley that he wanted testing up until fight night, because who wouldn't be skepitcal of somebody turning down the biggest day of their lives, and team mayweather never acknowledged they were in contact with ross greenburg or team pacquiao, and this is the same negotiation that Richard Schaeffer said never existed either. HMMMMMMMM huh, to save you the trouble ill humor you and say there was........ If the both sit down and talk a 2nd, or 3rd time around and mayweather says the exact same thing that he did last may, Ill fight you but if there's testing up until the day of the fight, and Manny responds like "well we already said we would except up until 7 days before the fight, and the fight doesn't happen, you gonna blame Mayweather then. To me the blame is gonna be simple this time around, if the fight ends because of blood testing, im blaming team pacquiao, if it continues the way it has been now with Mayweather basically not saying who or when he's fighting then ill blame Mayweather.

[Rassclot]

Mayweather stated at the end of his fight with Mosley that he wanted testing up until fight night, because who wouldn't be skepitcal of somebody turning down the biggest day of their lives, and team mayweather never acknowledged they were in contact with ross greenburg or team pacquiao, and this is the same negotiation that Richard Schaeffer said never existed either. HMMMMMMMM huh, to save you the trouble ill humor you and say there was........ If the both sit down and talk a 2nd, or 3rd time around and mayweather says the exact same thing that he did last may, Ill fight you but if there's testing up until the day of the fight, and Manny responds like "well we already said we would except up until 7 days before the fight, and the fight doesn't happen, you gonna blame Mayweather then. To me the blame is gonna be simple this time around, if the fight ends because of blood testing, im blaming team pacquiao, if it continues the way it has been now with Mayweather basically not saying who or when he's fighting then ill blame Mayweather.

Mayweathers are affiliated with Golden boy promotions. The fact that you quoted Richard Schaefe in Mayweather's defense shows your lack of knowledge on this matter. I could quote Arum all day long.

Ross Greenburg is a completely neutral third party. head of HBO. you don't have to humor me, the fact is Mayweather lied and they walked away from the negoatiations.

So you were incorrect still. go back and correct yourself. acknowledge your error or you're just a stubborn biased poster.



Mayweather was fine with 14 days the first time around. it really doesn't matter when he moved the goalpost.

the fact is he moved the goal post during the negotiation. that is conniving in terms of negotiations. when you are negotiating your car price and the sales person agrees to the # then they come back to the table with an inflated #. how does that make sense?

Whose fault is it in that scenerio?


Who is moving the goal posts?


lastly, you agreed Floyd is the last one to walk away from the table right? okay then.

[SpitBalla]

Floyd said in a recent interview drug testing isn't an issue any longer when it coMes to the PAC fight. Behind clOsed doors something happened, probably PAC agreed to testing till the end or something. So testing isn't the problem anymore, if it ever was.

Although, after PAC said he didn't think Floyd wants to fight him, Floyd replied take the test and we gotta fight. So Floyd is still using it as an excuse.

[jayhova29]

Mayweathers are affiliated with Golden boy promotions. The fact that you quoted Richard Schaefe in Mayweather's defense shows your lack of knowledge on this matter.

Ross Greenburg is a completely neutral third party. head of HBO. you don't have to humor me, the fact is Mayweather lied and they walked away from the negoatiations.

So you were incorrect still. go back and correct yourself. acknowledge your error or you're just a stubborn biased poster.



Mayweather was fine with 14 days the first time around. it really doesn't matter when he moved the goalpost.

the fact is he moved the goal post during the negotiation. that is conniving in terms of negotiations. when you are negotiating your car price and the sales person agrees to the # then they come back to the table with an inflated #. how does that make sense?

Whose fault is it in that scenerio?


Who is moving the goal posts?


lastly, you agreed Floyd is the last one to walk away from the table right? okay then.

!st off to what extent is Mayweather affiliated with Golden boy promotions, has always been the debate. The fact that i mentioned richard schaeffer to his defense does not show a lack of knowledge, i know who schaeffer is, but he denied it too, and if he's affiliated with golden boy (Im assuming he would be negotiating on Mayweather's behalf) correct, ok. Bob Arum is their representing Pacquiao and there you have Ross Greenburg, the hbo exec,
(who arum already promised a November date too, but of course, Greenburg would perfer having Pacquiao/Mayweather on his banner, than Pacquiao/Margarito. So when you say he's "a neutral 3rd party" that's an understatement.

And as far as moving the goalpost. Do you really think that mayweather thought, manny wouldn't except OST? i mean if your clean and have nothing to hide why wouldn't you except. You got the biggest ego in boxing to accept to all of your terms and all he wanted was random ost. NO CUTOFF DATE. At that time, team pacquiao didn't even acknowledge they rejected a 14 day proposal until 3 days after the day the mediator stepped in. By that time, they verbally commited to fighting Clottey and Pacquiao made 6 million. Mayweather fought mosley making close to 30mi. 14 day cut off at 1st was a benefit of the doubt, they rejected it. After public opinion swayed and the months passed, the thought of pacquiao using was maginified, so he lost that benefit.