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  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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    From the Iceman Diaries................

    September 22, 2005: "There will be all these people who will come out and say this is the brutality of our sport. ... Nobody blames auto racing when guys die hitting walls driving 200 miles per hour because it's not poor kids who race cars. It's poor kids who fight.”

    Lou Dibella was quoted as saying that today in the aftermath of the death of Levander Johnson.

    That may be true in a certain sense but, still, it is because the object of race car driving is not to intentionally smash people into walls and kill them. The main objective of boxing, however, however is to render your opponent unconscious blows to the head and with that comes trauma to a little thing called your brain. Your central nervous system probably doesn't appreciate the effort, either. I am a fighter and love boxing but I am not going to sit here and pretend that it is the safest sport out there. Events like this are just reminders for me why I don't push or prod any kids I work with towards professional careers. If they do it, it is their choice 100 percent. I mean, bringing up poor kids that box as a way out is nice and all and it's great that as a promoter you want to take a chance and invest so much money in them but, really, I have a new "to help give poor kids a chance." Instead of investing so much money into their pro boxing careers why don't you take these kids and put them through college and if and when these guys end up with great jobs making good money they can repay you with interest one day. Deal? It also brings up something I else I find comical in a way. Like when a promoter talks about a fighter and how much they "love them" and "consider them a part of the family." Maybe, maybe not, but it always amuses me that the guy they love like a son also happens to be an elite athlete with very good money making potential. It seems like the only ones that love four round opponents "like a son" are their trainers that work with them on a daily basis for what amounts to no more than probably a couple hundred dollars a year for their efforts.
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    I love amateur boxing man, amateur boxing use to get a lot of credit and would be televised all the time...It's a damn shame now though....

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    • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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      They stopped showing it because the networks cant make the money off it that they can with the "dream team" basketball games. the olympics is the biggest scam going. Money drives it ALL now

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        #4
        Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
        They stopped showing it because the networks cant make the money off it that they can with the "dream team" basketball games. the olympics is the biggest scam going. Money drives it ALL now

        You speak the truth, ESPN Classic picked up the golden gloves tournament but that is about it for amateur boxing.....I mean you never hear of great amateurs now.

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        • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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          WHEN I was a kid and Mark Breland was still amateur he was about as famous as any pro out there at the time. Thanks to ABC and Howard Cosell

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            #6
            Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
            September 22, 2005: "There will be all these people who will come out and say this is the brutality of our sport. ... Nobody blames auto racing when guys die hitting walls driving 200 miles per hour because it's not poor kids who race cars. It's poor kids who fight.”

            Lou Dibella was quoted as saying that today in the aftermath of the death of Levander Johnson.

            That may be true in a certain sense but, still, it is because the object of race car driving is not to intentionally smash people into walls and kill them. The main objective of boxing, however, however is to render your opponent unconscious blows to the head and with that comes trauma to a little thing called your brain. Your central nervous system probably doesn't appreciate the effort, either. I am a fighter and love boxing but I am not going to sit here and pretend that it is the safest sport out there. Events like this are just reminders for me why I don't push or prod any kids I work with towards professional careers. If they do it, it is their choice 100 percent. I mean, bringing up poor kids that box as a way out is nice and all and it's great that as a promoter you want to take a chance and invest so much money in them but, really, I have a new "to help give poor kids a chance." Instead of investing so much money into their pro boxing careers why don't you take these kids and put them through college and if and when these guys end up with great jobs making good money they can repay you with interest one day. Deal? It also brings up something I else I find comical in a way. Like when a promoter talks about a fighter and how much they "love them" and "consider them a part of the family." Maybe, maybe not, but it always amuses me that the guy they love like a son also happens to be an elite athlete with very good money making potential. It seems like the only ones that love four round opponents "like a son" are their trainers that work with them on a daily basis for what amounts to no more than probably a couple hundred dollars a year for their efforts.
            The object of racing may not be to kill people, but inevitably people are killed at a very high rate through race car driving (higher than boxing, I believe)... As a result, this makes it very dangerous and the people who enjoy race car driving know that it kills a lot of people. If the mortality outcome is higher than that of boxing while at the same time the media is biased towards reporting mostly the negative aspects of boxing whereas this is not true for race car driving then Dibella does have a point.

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #7
              LOOK... the OBJECTIVE of racing is NOT to injure or kill a person....boxing is a man TRYING to hurt another man and if he sees a man hurt he tries to hurt him MORE

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                #8
                Amateur boxing is more prominent in Europe and Russia. It gest televised more than here.

                It is a very good sport.

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