Manny's leg injury was legit, and the real reason he didn't cut the ring off

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  • esconore
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    #41
    Pacquiao: I broke my leg.
    Jim: What do you mean by that?
    Pacquiao: My leg is broken.

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    • #1Assassin
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      #42
      idk.. i think its obvious his leg was bothering him somewhat but i alos think its obvious it wasnt alot. he did put weight on it several times even in the videos posted and he looked quick on his feet all night.

      the reason he coudltn cut the ring of is shane showed great ring generalship and pacquiao never been a guy whos great at cuttig the ring of. i dont think the leg injury played a big role i the fight. pac always struggles when guys move side to side. ALWAYS. and like i said the leg clearly wasnt seriously injured.

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      • Phil Ivey
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        #43
        Thx for the videos. Injuries can happen to anyone, I hate it when people dismisses his performance and automatically think he's past it - injuries do happen guys lol.. from legs to hands. I think he did over train, he's still in his prime imo.

        EDIT: Just read above Shane great ring generalship? What fight were you watching? Manny DICTATED the whole fight and not once did Shane have Manny backing up or on the ropes. He was running not using lateral movement and Manny set the pace not him. That's just ridiculous. Manny has problem with movers but Shane was simply running and rarely was countering - I think even sparring with Shawn Porter was tougher than that fight no joke.
        Last edited by Phil Ivey; 05-09-2011, 06:53 AM.

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        • Tamis!
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          #44
          Originally posted by #1Assassin
          idk.. i think its obvious his leg was bothering him somewhat but i alos think its obvious it wasnt alot. he did put weight on it several times even in the videos posted and he looked quick on his feet all night.

          the reason he coudltn cut the ring of is shane showed great ring generalship and pacquiao never been a guy whos great at cuttig the ring of. i dont think the leg injury played a big role i the fight. pac always struggles when guys move side to side. ALWAYS. and like i said the leg clearly wasnt seriously injured.
          Am I reading this right?

          First, what Shane did was NOT RING GENERALSHIP. Ring generalship is dictating the terms inside the boxing ring, neutralizing the opponent with jabs and control the centre and the whole of the ring effectively. And most of all, making the opponent fight your own fight and exchange shots in your own terms.

          Now did Shane did all of that?

          And Manny's not good at cutting the ring off?

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          • Buffalo
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            #45
            Originally posted by -Top Rank-
            Not really. A quick trip to a specialist will fix that problem. I mean I had foot issues myself and after going to the right specialist, my problem was fixed in no time. I had to go through a period of rehab etc...but I haven't had issues since then.
            so who got todd's coffee when you had rehab?

            shine his shoes too.....*****

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              #46
              Originally posted by IIocano
              Not to mention manny throwing 500 total punches rather than his usual 1000. I agree his leg was bothering him, could have been the accident, over trained like ariza said or maybe pacquiao trying to catch the chicken (Mosley). But anyhow manny putting in 55% or work rate still dominates Mosley (shutout) if you ask me.
              Ur taking the Top Rank talking points too far. The "accident" was the equivalent of a shopping cart hitting ur car. The security van tapped the car while sitting at a standstill in traffic. And if memory serves me correctly, everyone said this was his best camp....but now he overtrained. And no one can find anything that states Pac has had these problems in the past. Not one article that suggest it. These are excuses, bro. This guy struggles against movement. Deal with it. Leg cramps don't cause u to leap in off balance.

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              • V.WEBB
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                #47


                The real reason for the leg craps was obviously the three car accident he was in but he is so much of a warrior that he fought anyway.

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                • P.K
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by champ_kw
                  Ur taking the Top Rank talking points too far. The "accident" was the equivalent of a shopping cart hitting ur car. The security van tapped the car while sitting at a standstill in traffic. And if memory serves me correctly, everyone said this was his best camp....but now he overtrained. And no one can find anything that states Pac has had these problems in the past. Not one article that suggest it. These are excuses, bro. This guy struggles against movement. Deal with it. Leg cramps don't cause u to leap in off balance.

                  IMO Pacquiao's footwork was better VS Oscar who was backpedalling.

                  Pacquiao normally darts in and out, and something was missing.

                  As for foot trouble:

                  Manny Pacquiao is ready to begin the sparring phase of his training camp on Tuesday. His trainer Freddie Roach is expecting at least 150 rounds of sparring to p


                  Every elite boxer who trains hard gets injuries.

                  Mayweather has brittle hands and hurt his rib vs Marquez

                  Hopkin's had thyroid issues vs Calzaghe etc...

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                  • Pacquiao'd
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                    #49
                    *******s are good for nothing but excuses

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                      Am I reading this right?

                      First, what Shane did was NOT RING GENERALSHIP. Ring generalship is dictating the terms inside the boxing ring, neutralizing the opponent with jabs and control the centre and the whole of the ring effectively. And most of all, making the opponent fight your own fight and exchange shots in your own terms.

                      Now did Shane did all of that?

                      And Manny's not good at cutting the ring off?

                      but shane did dictate the pace with his movement and weak job...not to mention pac being shy of shanes right hand

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