Sergio Martinez is currently the world's best fighter

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  • BoxingFollower
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    #51
    Originally posted by _Hisoka
    All opinions man, people have different criterias.
    Your right, doesn't mean hes wrong.

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    • ShoguNinja
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      #52
      Pacquiao is still the Very Best P4P Fighter in the world!!!

      Only id!ot Pac-haters say otherwise... A Green Sergio Martinez is not even close in terms of skills and accomplishment to Pacquiao. He can be when Manny retires but i highly doubt that because Donaire is also in the thick of things when it comes to P4P?!

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        #53
        Originally posted by BoxingFollower
        Im not even a Pacquiao fan, but there ain't NO WAY, that B-Hop is infront of Pacquiao on the P4P list. This has to be the most REALEST dumbest post ever.

        Will he possible be a bigger legend than Pacquiao, YES! Will he go down in history as being ranked better than Pacquiao, probably. But better....

        Even if you count that hes fighting a young lion like Jean Pascal.
        This is just wrong.

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          #54
          Originally posted by _Hisoka
          Just look at the two man, I don't think highly of Dzinziruk but he's clearly a much better boxer than Kotelnik. Both could use some head movement though...
          i did look at them and kotelnik looks like the much better fighter to the eye and he also has the much better resume. all dzinziruk had was an undefeated resume and that's because he only fought a couple of live opponents not to mention he got a gift decision against konecy.

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            #55
            Originally posted by daggum
            i did look at them and kotelnik looks like the much better fighter to the eye and he also has the much better resume. all dzinziruk had was an undefeated resume and that's because he only fought a couple of live opponents not to mention he got a gift decision against konecy.
            Granted I'm not all that impressed by either, to my eyes, Dzinziruk is clearly a much better boxer. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. Just that I see better qualities in Dzinziruk.

            The bold, never seen that fight, I'll have to check that out.

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              #56
              martinez the great... opting to drain himself back to 154 instead of moving up in 168... what an assbag...

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                #57
                Originally posted by FootWork777
                To me Martinez is clearly the best fighter in the game right now. He's proven himself and the so-called "best" guys want no part of him. He absolutely destroyed Dzinzuruk, who was undefeated and said to have a great jab. He looked great against Sergei who is not a fighter anybody should look good against. He slept Paul Williams in just 2 rounds. I think Martinez would easily KO Pacquiao and I would favor him against Mayweather.
                Wrong! It was Floyd!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by _Hisoka
                  Granted I'm not all that impressed by either, to my eyes, Dzinziruk is clearly a much better boxer. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. Just that I see better qualities in Dzinziruk.

                  The bold, never seen that fight, I'll have to check that out.
                  kotelnik can fight going forwards or backwards, he's a good counter puncher, has good defense and throws nice combinations. he was able to keep the hard charging maidana at bay and he was able to track down alexander and land the much cleaner punches while getting robbed. 2 different styles and he showed he could handle both.

                  if dzinziruk can't land his jab he's finished. he's basically a breathing mannequin when it comes to head movement and anyone who turns him is gonna give him trouble. kotelnik just has more dimensions than him and is a much more versatile fighter.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by FootWork777
                    To me Martinez is clearly the best fighter in the game right now. He's proven himself and the so-called "best" guys want no part of him. He absolutely destroyed Dzinzuruk, who was undefeated and said to have a great jab. He looked great against Sergei who is not a fighter anybody should look good against. He slept Paul Williams in just 2 rounds. I think Martinez would easily KO Pacquiao and I would favor him against Mayweather.
                    well ofcourse he would beat pac and floyd they are much smaller guys, that doesnt mean hes better p4p though. i mean both pac and floyd fought bigger guys but theres always been a but attached, usually fighting guys with the right style at the right point in their career. well sergio martinez has the wrong style for both of them and is at the peak of his career. neither floyd or pac gave up size to someone like that and they shouldnt. they have no buisness at 160, they would lose but not only bcuz martinez is great at that weight but they would be bad at that weight. so what does it prove for martinez if he beat them? very little no matter how great pac and floyd have been.

                    i do agree martinez is the #1 guy right now though. like i said pac and floyd are cherrypicking alot. fighting guys who have big names but nothing else to offer, martinez is fighting the most dangerous guys in their primes, and he doesnt care about their styles either.

                    what flaws does martinez have? he cant fight for 3min a round for 12 rounds. yet he fights a guy like williams and ends up shattering his world. what other flaws? bad fundamentals. maybe a great fundamental fighter whos also a southpaw and has a significant height and reach advantage can beat him, a guy whos in his prime and hungry. nope, martinez outclassed him all night.

                    this guy is impressing me. hes taking fights i think are bad for him and ends up dominating leaving me in awe of his performance. when floyd and pac fight its never the guy i wish they would fight (and not just eachother), its always some past prime tailor made guy u know doesnt stand a chance. only mainstream fans are impressed bcuz of the name, but they havent followed the sport enough to know what time it is. its a con job, martinez is the truth.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #60
                      Sergio is not the best fighter in the world, let alone the best p4p fighter!
                      Pac beat Margarito and Sergio lost to Margarito (i hear chants of Sergio would beat Margarito now ringing in my ears), so at least Sergio needs to do is beat Pac to even be considered on Pacs level.

                      That would make Sergio possibly a better fighter than Pac, but not p4p better still. Why isnt it clear?

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