How did Pac get 120 points on 2 scorecards?

[physiker]

Scores were 119-108, 120-108, 120-107. How did pac get 120 on 2 scorecards?!

What about the Knockdown?! I know it was a completely BS Knockdown and one of the worst decisions i've seen in boxing in a while. But since the ref called it a KD, surely the judges have to honor that? Just like for BS point deductions they have to deduct a point!

I thought Pac clearly won the round. But coz of the KD, surely pac cant get more than 9 points for that round. SO how did he end up with 120 points?

Am i missing something

I realized the scoring anomaly too, and wondered how this is possible.
Seems like the judges did the equivalent of jury nullification, and ignored the rules? I thought
1. Ref decides a KD
2. Whoeve gets Knocked down cannot get 10 points.
3. That is set "in stone."

I guess one or more of those are incorrect. Would be nice to have someone from a boxing comission comment on this matter!

Judges have erred before on a KD (or 3 of them in a round) as with Pac-Marquez I. Here of course, it matters not at all, and so will fade soon.

[revs1227]

the judges do not have to honor the refs decision

[physiker]

the judges do not have to honor the refs decision

Thanks. Do you know this with certainty? I.e., not an opinion, but you know the boxing commission's written rules?

Where can I find this?

[oc9979]

I thought Mosley kd was supposed to make it a 10-8 round, seeing how PAC still won the round, that should've been a 9-9 round.

did u guys missed the 3rd round kdown of mosley??
,, both guys got a kdown so that cancels out

No, It does not cancel out.

Those 2 judges probably scored the Mosley knockdown of Pac a 10-10 cuz Pac just went after Mosley.

Yes, they did.

It was a BS knockdown so the judges could care less. If you do the math one judge scored it even 10-10, the other 10-9 in favor of PAC and the generous one scored it 10-9 Mosley.

The Judges had the best view when Mosley pushed Pacq. and they saw the replay, they not going to give mosley 10-8 or even 9-9 cuz they know its BS, Judges DONT need to listen to REF. THEY are the Judges and the Ref is a REF.

The do not have monitors to watch the replay.

The judges must have scored the round 10-10 even thought the ref called a knock down.

Pac might just be the only person to get 'knocked down' and still score 10 points in the round

Quite ridiculous.

Although it obviously wasn't a KD but the fact is the ref called it as one and regardless to what the judges opinion on the matter is there is still no way you can score someone 10 points in a round the ref called a KD in.

But hey, It's Pacqiauo.

Judges have a replay monitor? So when a ref takes a point away, he's actually talking to the fans not judges.

The KD was BS, but once the ref starts counting, it's a KD, judges don't decide knockdowns, the ref does.

Pacquiao was winning 10-9, Mosley scored KD and scores become 10-10. That's it, supposed to be 9-9, but sometimes judges also give 10-10.

The reason why the round was a 10-10 round was because the fight was 10 point must system, Which mean that Pacquiao won the round but Mosley got the Knocked down which would make it 9-9 but it has to be 10-10.

Note: Atleast one of the fighters have to get 10 points in the round

[Medved]

The Push happened infront of the 2 judges, so they saw it was a push. Like the guy above said they are the judges, they can score it whatever they want, they usually follow the Ref's call. This is like when you make a deal with a prosecutor in court and he tells the judge that u guys made a deal, the judge doesnt have to honor it but 99.99% they do.

Same thing here, the 2 guys who gave it for Manny saw it was a BS Knock Down and didnt count it cuz they were right infront of it or saw it on the instant replay. This is smart judging.

[oc9979]

The Push happened infront of the 2 judges, so they saw it was a push. Like the guy above said they are the judges, they can score it whatever they want, they usually follow the Ref's call. This is like when you make a deal with a prosecutor in court and he tells the judge that u guys made a deal, the judge doesnt have to honor it but 99.99% they do.

Same thing here, the 2 guys who gave it for Manny saw it was a BS Knock Down and didnt count it cuz they were right infront of it or saw it on the instant replay. This is smart judging.

No.
12 rounds times 10 point is 120
12 rounds times 9 point is 108 but
Shane got knocked down, so it would be 11*9 plus 8 point round=107

One of them did not score the knocked down but the other one scored the round a 10-10

10 round times 9 points is 90 points plus an 8 point round plus a 10 point round
90+8+10=108

[physiker]

No.
12 rounds times 10 point is 120
12 rounds times 9 point is 108 but
Shane got knocked down, so it would be 11*9 plus 8 point round=107

One of them did not score the knocked down but the other one scored the round a 10-10

10 round times 9 points is 90 points plus an 8 point round plus a 10 point round
90+8+10=108

Thanks! Glad someone can do the math here.

[AssasinKing]

I thought it was because

Pac still won the round even tho he recieved a "knock down"

So you cant have a round end 9-9 unless a point is deducted from a illegal blow(i think)

so the round finished 10-10....and the judges may have given pac a 10-8 round for all we know

Anyway Im not 100% sure but thats what i THINK

[physiker]

The thing that surprises me, is that I thought the ref's ruling of a KD was like law. Had to be taken into account by the judges. This can work both ways.

If the ref is not corrupt, a corrupt judge can over-rule the ref's call of a KD.

Leaves things open for some bad as well as good possibilities--if true.

What dya think?

[deanrw]

I think what happened is that Manny totally dominated the round and had Mosley reeling. I think they saw the bad call so in essence gave pac a 10-8 round for his dominance to cancel out the bad knockdown. So with the 10 point must system, they made it a 10-10 round.

Manny was destined to fall there though. Not only was he off balance from throwing his own punch, but was also pushed while Mosley's left foot was on top of right foot!hehe