Shane's "official knockdown of Manny"

[RlCKY]

Regardless of whether or not Shane knocked down Manny, which clearly he didnt, how could the judges not score it as such?

[lfc19titles]

The judges have the power to score a round as they see fit, even if there is a knockdown, they do not have to score the round to the person doing it, they do have the power to score it as they see it which is what they did

[revs1227]

thats wat i was thinking ....where the judges just like noooo

[ChappyHova]

I always wondered this, I thought if the ref ruled it a KD then the judges had to score as such. I'm sure this was mentioned when Pascal hit Bhop on the back of the head and the commentator's said that they have to score it as a KD.

[RlCKY]

The judges have the power to score a round as they see fit, even if there is a knockdown, they do not have to score the round to the person doing it, they do have the power to score it as they see it which is what they did

So if a ref calls a point deduction for a low blow, but the judges don't see it/don't think it was low, they don't have to take the point? Alternatively, what if it was a knockdown and there was a non-call? Could they give the fighter an extra point in that case?

I just think it is a judges job to score a fight based on actions decisions made by the referee during the fight. It's not as if the point even mattered, but that isnt the point

[lfc19titles]

So if a ref calls a point deduction for a low blow, but the judges don't see it/don't think it was low, they don't have to take the point? Alternatively, what if it was a knockdown and there was a non-call? Could they give the fighter an extra point in that case?

I just think it is a judges job to score a fight based on actions decisions made by the referee during the fight. It's not as if the point even mattered, but that isnt the point

Not really, the referees Job is to make sure the fight is done clean, to ensure they give a fair 8 count to the guy who was dropped if they felt he was dropped, to protect the boxer in the ring.

Its hard to explain mate, I under where you are coming from, the referee can deduct a point if he feels the fighter is cheating or dq him, he can call a knock down but he cannot decide on what judges give at the end of the round. That is the job of the commission (or belt authority)

[RlCKY]

The only thing that remotely makes sense was if they were gonna score it 10-8 for manny if he was beatin the hell out of shane in the round, which wasnt the case, and shane scored a KD and the round was thus scored 10-9 manny as a result. happened before. But clearly this was a conscious decision for at least two of the judges to go against what was decided by the referee

[any craic lad?]

I always taught this too that no matter how bad a call it was the judge has to score the round 10-8 or if the fighter who was knocked down does well enough in the remaining time 10-9

[P.K]

So if a ref calls a point deduction for a low blow, but the judges don't see it/don't think it was low, they don't have to take the point? Alternatively, what if it was a knockdown and there was a non-call? Could they give the fighter an extra point in that case?

I just think it is a judges job to score a fight based on actions decisions made by the referee during the fight. It's not as if the point even mattered, but that isnt the point

I was thinking that too. However I guess if it's a clear wrong decision then they can decide on it?

[RlCKY]

Not really, the referees Job is to make sure the fight is done clean, to ensure they give a fair 8 count to the guy who was dropped if they felt he was dropped, to protect the boxer in the ring.

Its hard to explain mate, I under where you are coming from, the referee can deduct a point if he feels the fighter is cheating or dq him, he can call a knock down but he cannot decide on what judges give at the end of the round. That is the job of the commission (or belt authority)

Makes sense what you are saying. It would just be tough to swallow if it was a fight that was a one point swing, in which the scoring of that moment would be critical to the outcome of the fight