Comments Thread For: Shane Mosley Breaks Down Pacquiao vs Mayweather Bout

[waxfondler]

DEAR FLOYD FANBOYS:
you guys are quick to parrot "take the test" regarding manny... ok. so be it.

but tell me what he says regarding martinez???? what do YOU guys say?

sergio's name makes floydboys go mute. LOL.

enjoy the vacation & lady gaga

[physiker]

-pac was wary of shane's power. but with floyd, he'll willingly eat those potshots to unload his power.

That's actually a valid point to some extent. Of course FLoyd does have some power or the equivalent. As raw power is not the most important variable--it is whether you get hit by a shot you didn't see. And Floyd's reflexes still make that possible.

OTOH I have written Pac would likely stand after receiving anything from Floyd, and I don't think vice-versa is the case. And thus FLoyd does not want to risk losing his precious "0".

[ALG United]

Actually,against Floyd,Shane's trainer nearly threw in the towel-against Manny,there was never that threat.Floyd manhandled Shane until he looked like he was going to cry in the later rounds,whereas Manny couldn't catch up to an old-timer who isn't used to fighting on the backfoot.I will try to forget how Shane kept Manny at the end of his weak jittery jab!

Did you really watch both fights, against Floyd, Mosley was fighting to win until the end round, he was able to time Floyd in the 2nd round so Mosley was hoping that he'll gonna see that opening again in the later rounds, hence he was getting peppered by those potshots from Floyd that doesn't really hurt Mosley but only frustrates him. But with Manny, Mosley was fighting just to survive, he was not able to go of at all, Manny shuts him down completely, Manny was never in any way in trouble against Mosley, unlike Floyd who almost kissed the canvass if only Mosley didn't gassed out....

[jnapoli85]

Shane was completely neutralized last night by a less than exceptional pacman. He was afraid to fight and he was knocked down despite running the whole fight. So my question is does that call in question floyds performance against Shane? Floyd was almost ko"d by a 38 year old Shane. So his defense might not be as flawless as thought. Manny not looking spectular at all in anyway, beat Shane at his own game and forced him into survival mode from round 3 on. As for those to say manny couldn't get to Shane so Floyd will beat him easy, just remember this running away and being defensive aren't always the same thing.

Marquez your next on pacmans hit list fool

So stop running your pee pee smelling mouth

[Clint650]

i think it is a tougher fight for Manny based on Mayweather's ability to adjust. Along with his speed and boxing IQ, i think Floyd will be much harder to hit, and much harder to keep hitting. Still, Floyd has a huge challenge ahead of him, because Manny's power could put Floyd in "survivor" mode too. Which would suck since Manny looks better and gets better results when he is not chasing a fighter. Once his opponenents are fighting to survive thats just what they do. they survive. Shane's experience allowed him to do that, and he was able to use the ring and clinch when in close. I know it's hard to fight someone who isnt willing to fight but some of the blame has to be put on Manny's part in not being able to cut off the ring and force the fight with his offense. Theres no doubt that Floyd would be able to survive also.
the other scenerio invisioned is what Mayweather is famous for, shutting his opponents down round by round. Total Control. it is all about control, and if Pac can't break through Floyd and put him on the run, Floyd will be the one in control and thats where this fight can turn into a real display of boxer vs puncher, in this case the boxer winning the chess match. Floyd rocked Shane a bit too, but he frustrated Shane more than hurting him. Floyd mentally beats fighters, but Manny hurts them.

Floyd has yet to show a weakness in his game and remains undefeated so even though Manny is crown P4P king, Floyd is still the man to beat.

[Sugar Q]

So this is a black white thing? You know the world is not black-white and the US is not the world.


Regarding the examples- when McGwire was hot Sammy Sosa was another right with him who was black (Hispanic is not a race - there are three races Native American (Chavez), Black (Trinidad), White (de la Hoya)). At first people didn't want to believe it but the evidence kept growing and growing until it became a scandal. And - last time I looked Roger Clemens was white.

Bonds did not break Ruth's record - Hank Aaron did. And, in case you care Aaron trashed Bonds use of steroids.

Regarding ***** being disrespected? Where were you during the Bush years?

I did a quick search - here's a site: http://www.theclassical*******.com/T...**killbush.cfm

Hate to say but white men aren't intimidated by other cultures besides African American. Asians, hispanics, etc. don't intimidate white men. Bush wasn't asked to show his birth certificate, prove his education, his religious beliefs or his word until he got caught in lies. Bush was also given a chance to be a good president. ***** though I don't agree with some things about him, was under scruntiny before he got elected til this day. By the way, Hank Aaron received more death threats than probably any player in baseball history. I'm just saying if Floyd were the one suspected of cheating it would be an outcry for his head and anyone honest knows it's the truth. If Mcgwire and Sosa didn't happen before Bonds it would be his ass too but they can't make an example out of Bonds without getting the others.

[ModernTalking]

I did not see this fight. But can someone explain to me why Shane would say Manny is a tougher? I guess a better question is, what makes a fighter tough? Taking punches? Coming forward? Throwing harder punches?

Is this Floyd LOL? Stop hiding behind your fake a55 test and 100 mills demand and get in the ring with PAC you coward. You're making all your black brothers look bad chicken.

[Sugar Q]

i think it is a tougher fight for Manny based on Mayweather's ability to adjust. Along with his speed and boxing IQ, i think Floyd will be much harder to hit, and much harder to keep hitting. Still, Floyd has a huge challenge ahead of him, because Manny's power could put Floyd in "survivor" mode too. Which would suck since Manny looks better and gets better results when he is not chasing a fighter. Once his opponenents are fighting to survive thats just what they do. they survive. Shane's experience allowed him to do that, and he was able to use the ring and clinch when in close. I know it's hard to fight someone who isnt willing to fight but some of the blame has to be put on Manny's part in not being able to cut off the ring and force the fight with his offense. Theres no doubt that Floyd would be able to survive also.
the other scenerio invisioned is what Mayweather is famous for, shutting his opponents down round by round. Total Control. it is all about control, and if Pac can't break through Floyd and put him on the run, Floyd will be the one in control and thats where this fight can turn into a real display of boxer vs puncher, in this case the boxer winning the chess match. Floyd rocked Shane a bit too, but he frustrated Shane more than hurting him. Floyd mentally beats fighters, but Manny hurts them.

Floyd has yet to show a weakness in his game and remains undefeated so even though Manny is crown P4P king, Floyd is still the man to beat.

I picked Corrales against Floyd for that reason and Corrales was a far more murderous puncher at that time than Manny but Floyd proved me wrong. If Floyd didn't go into survival mode against those punches Shane hit him with what Makes anybody think he would do that against Pacquiao? I don't get it. Floyd would box Pac's ears off. Shane had no jab, barely used his main weapon (right hand) and didn't come to fight. If Shane reverts back to the old Shane in his next fight, my theory of him being paid to make Pac look good is correct. I've watched Shane his whole career and something wasn't right about that fight. Shane barely threw punches. Not many right hands or body punches. I don't buy the Pac hits so hard BS. Oscar was a harder puncher, so was Forrest and Winky was in that ass too but he didnt stop Shane from punching. bull****!!!!!!!!!!!

[SkillspayBills]

Manny's got 5 rounds AT THE MOST to beat Floyd. Come round 6 when his style is downloaded, it's OVER.

[waxfondler]

I picked Corrales against Floyd for that reason and Corrales was a far more murderous puncher at that time than Manny but Floyd proved me wrong. If Floyd didn't go into survival mode against those punches Shane hit him with what Makes anybody think he would do that against Pacquiao? I don't get it. Floyd would box Pac's ears off. Shane had no jab, barely used his main weapon (right hand) and didn't come to fight. If Shane reverts back to the old Shane in his next fight, my theory of him being paid to make Pac look good is correct. I've watched Shane his whole career and something wasn't right about that fight. Shane barely threw punches. Not many right hands or body punches. I don't buy the Pac hits so hard BS. Oscar was a harder puncher, so was Forrest and Winky was in that ass too but he didnt stop Shane from punching. bull****!!!!!!!!!!!

not gonna lie Q, last night had me scratching my head too... but i had the same reaction when shane fought floyd... we all want to see shane have his last hurrah, i guess it was margs... like the floyd/shane fight, the pac/shane fight was overshadowed by shanes inability to perform... at least floyd had shane pressing the fight (giving floyd every chance to potshot and rack up the points)... pac had to chase shane around the ring.... after all that crap regarding mora, shane does the SAME exact thing. i say its time for shane/berto again. LOL

what bothered me the most was pac's post fight... weaksauce. it was definitely floyd fanboy flame worthy...