Manny takes a better shot than Floyd...

[BoxingFollower]

WRONG.


The overwhelming majority of TRUE BONA FIDE legendary HALL OF FAME fighters have losses on their records.

It means much greater than an undefeated record. It means they fought the best. It means they were tested & challenged themselves.

Undefeated Records = Su****iousness.

WRONG, anyways that what I said.

Not alot of boxers retired undefeated, and the ones that did are called cherry pickers.

Like Rocky Marciano, people say he cherry picked and not once in his career was he the underdog, not once.

Calzaghe, alot of people say he never faced any real threats.

Undefeated means nothing, but Pacquiao fans surely want to act as if Pacquiao has never been beating, when they wont let Mayweather forget that his was rocked by Mosley,NOT EVEN A KNOCKDOWN, and especially not a knockout or loss.

[SplitSecond]

WRONG, anyways that what I said.

Not alot of boxers retired undefeated, and the ones that did are called cherry pickers.

Like Rocky Marciano, people say he cherry picked and not once in his career was he the underdog, not once.

Calzaghe, alot of people say he never faced any real threats.

Undefeated means nothing, but Pacquiao fans surely want to act as if Pacquiao has never been beating, when they wont let Mayweather forget that his was rocked by Mosley,NOT EVEN A KNOCKDOWN, and especially not a knockout or loss.

who said pacquiao has never been beaten?

[physiker]

So basically we should ERASE his record, and forget about any loses Pacquiao has, that doesn't make him any less a great fighter, but some of the greatest fighters were undefeated.

But to me it seems that Pacquiao fans would rather try to market Pacquiao as undefeated in just another way to gain leverage over Mayweather.

Back in 1999 was the last time Pacquiao was KO'd

You are off base RE my post. I was showing that what happened to a starving teenager over 10 years ago is not relevant to the discussion of who NOW has a better chin. Thought that was what we were discussing

And since there are no stats for being wobbled, let's drop that.

And since 1999 was the last time Pac was KDed, what about Floyd? Was he ever KD? I've seen the Zab fight where he definitely touched the canvas, but it was not official. So, was he ever?

[BoxingFollower]

who said pacquiao has never been beaten?

Some Pacquiao fans, they say "we might as well not count those loses" or they laugh at Floyd for getting rocked by Mosley "when Manny has actually been KO'D"

How can you pick at someone for getting rocked? By defending someone who has actually been knocked out?

[BoxingFollower]

You are off base RE my post. I was showing that what happened to a starving teenager over 10 years ago is not relevant to the discussion of who NOW has a better chin. Thought that was what we were discussing

And since there are no stats for being wobbled, let's drop that.

And since 1999 was the last time Pac was KDed, what about Floyd? Was he ever KD? I've seen the Zab fight where he definitely touched the canvas, but it was not official. So, was he ever?

No, Floyd has never been KO'D thats why he's undefeated, KO would mean that you've lost a match. Floyd has touch the canvas before but it was ruled as a slip.

Come on, lets not act dumb, you know you've seen Pacquiao fans pick at Floyd for getting rocked.

[PlayerKiller]

im gonna take your stance here...

based on what? Manny has been KO'd...Floyd has not...the evidence suggests that Floyd and Manny should be switched on your supremely accurate and well researched list of fighter's chin ratings lol



based on the fact that those were BOMBS that Shane hit Floyd with...and added to that Floyd was caught sleeping and was not expecting them...anyone who is not just a pure hater should be able to admit that those shots would have floored most guys...

im just flabbergasted at some of you guys...i just don't understand why you feel the need to stroke your own egos by putting down other fighters to defend the guy you like...have you convinced yourself that Manny actually cares about you? Or that he is reading your posts and that he is proud to see you defending his honor?...

I just don't get you idiots...im a Floyd fan...and don't hide that...but Christ i have no problem spreading the love to Manny as a great fighter, and im very excited to see him fight tonight



WOW...you're going to call someone a moron? have you read your own posts?...

Answer some questions for me...

1. How many times has Floyd been floored?
2. How many times has Manny been floored?
3. How many times has Floyd been KO'd?
4. How many times has Manny been KO'd?

all the evidence here points to Floyd having the better chin....is that true? can't really say...Floyd makes a living by NOT getting hit...but we have seen him hit with some big shots (Mosley, Zab etc) and he didn't go down...

Manny has certainly been hit much more than Floyd and, its obviously been a long time since he has been knocked out...leading me to believe Manny has a very good chin as well...

i dont think there is much evidence on either side to suggest that either fighter has a suspect chin..



what a typical toolbox response...someone points out that Manny has been hurt, and instead of just accepting it as fact you respond by showing that person's fav fighter getting KO'd...i mean really??...

not to mention that is a monster shot from a GREAT fighter (Martinez) lol...

There's a difference between the two. Floyd is defensive and gets hit less, while Manny has beenhit more.

[Shadow boxer 3]

i like pac but his fans make me want to see him get KTFO.

[shodown19]

Didn't Marquez knock Pac down? It doesn't even really matter who has the better chin, it matters who has the better defense which is why Floyd obviously uses all the tools he has to prevent himself from being knocked down.

If you want to debate who has the better chin ask Torrecampo, Singsurat and Marquez(who fought both fighters).


Fact-Manny Pacquiao could not last 3 rounds with Singsurat

Fact-Manny Pacquiao could not last 3 rounds with Torrecampo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sETbYUK96o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pa1H_TLmU

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Some Pacquiao fans, they say "we might as well not count those loses" or they laugh at Floyd for getting rocked by Mosley "when Manny has actually been KO'D"

How can you pick at someone for getting rocked? By defending someone who has actually been knocked out?

No, Floyd has never been KO'D thats why he's undefeated, KO would mean that you've lost a match. Floyd has touch the canvas before but it was ruled as a slip.

Come on, lets not act dumb, you know you've seen Pacquiao fans pick at Floyd for getting rocked.

WRONG, anyways that what I said.

Not alot of boxers retired undefeated, and the ones that did are called cherry pickers.

Like Rocky Marciano, people say he cherry picked and not once in his career was he the underdog, not once.

Calzaghe, alot of people say he never faced any real threats.

Undefeated means nothing, but Pacquiao fans surely want to act as if Pacquiao has never been beating, when they wont let Mayweather forget that his was rocked by Mosley,NOT EVEN A KNOCKDOWN, and especially not a knockout or loss.

WRONG.

why are you getting bent & painting the whole fanbase with one brush based on "some" pac fans obvious troll post to rile up sensitive floyd fans such as yourself?

Those losses are responsible for making pac the fighter that he is today. Stop taking some minority message board opinion & trying to run with it as some serious point of contention.

As for the pac fans picking at floyd for almost getting KTFO, you know what it is. its the internet. Stop frontin.

[physiker]

No, Floyd has never been KO'D thats why he's undefeated, KO would mean that you've lost a match. Floyd has touch the canvas before but it was ruled as a slip.

Come on, lets not act dumb, you know you've seen Pacquiao fans pick at Floyd for getting rocked.

Jeez, r u 4 real?

I wrote KD, not KO.

Do you know what KD stands for?