freddie is lying, manny is lying, arum is lying, boxingscene writers are liars!
everybody except floyd...
smh
Your right, if you can read you can see the lies. How can you have a BS lawsuit against someone you truly wanna make a deal with? Some on Boxing Scene seem to be quick to get the story out sometimes without verifying it's validity which a lot of times ends up being wrong. Freddie was the first to say Manny wasn't ready he also avoided Shane coming off Margarito. You don't avoid Marquez but really wanna face Floyd!!! The thing I think you and others need to do is call a lie a lie no matter where it comes from that's the way I was brought up.
Nothing in credible ANYMORE in this sistuation, we got Pacquiao fans trying to erase Bob Arums record of being a lying, sneaky promoter.
Hell, the guy has even been raided acouple of times by the FBI, but Pacquaio fans only want to talk about Floyd and Law enforcement.
I say negogiations should be done on video, otherwise we will never know who is lying.
ALL promoters lie, including Delahoya, there into Marketing, and they will do anything to make money, it's been proven that Arum is a snake in the 70,'s - 80's, and early 90's.
I guess the only question we can ask you, and other floyd fans on here right now can chime in too, is how do you suggest they make this fight happen? Or do you even want it to happen at this point?
Going by what you have argued, we know that any response from Manny or Arum to the request of Floyd to take the test would not suffice because they are lies.
That because Manny did not agree to the first negotiations he ducked floyd already therefore thats how the story should end, with floyd as the hero.
This is what I am talking about. On this thread I have already stated in my posts that I do not believe everything Floyd says and will not cosign what is not right and exact but all Pac fans see is that I am a "*****" just because I am questioning Pac? Both them dudes can go to hell with all this b!tch@ss media bickering. If floyd is retired and don't want to fight then he should stay his @ss away from the sport and if Pac don't want to take the tests then he should just say it instead of saying he agreed and clearly he has not. None of these guys want to look like their the bad guy. They should put their egos aside and just step to each other face to face and say what is on their minds but they won't because all of this media bickering constantly is getting them mega attention. We are basically bickering and arguing about two top fighters that don't want to fight? Ridiculous. F*** both of them for lying to us. The one thing I cannot cosign is that Floyd is scared of Pac because dude was at the table negotiating to fight him and all team Pac did was come up with excuses, one after the other. Don't believe me? Ask Schaefer.....
Schaefer believes that Arum's position of leaving it up to the commission is him "moving the goal post."
"The pressure is on Pacquiao," he said. "They keep moving the goal post like they did with the $10 million weight penalty [if either fighter is over the contract maximum 147 pounds], which we agreed to. They didn't think we would accept that. When we did, they had to find something else to make into a problem. So now they're saying it's up to the commission instead of wanting to negotiate the drug testing with us. I don't want to hear that if the fight breaks up it was because of us. When they came to us with a $10 million weight penalty, they didn't expect us to say yes. They thought we'd say no. So when we said yes, they had to come up with something else. Now we're off USADA, and they are going to come and say only urine testing if that's what the commission says. It's really frustrating.
"We are making compromises. It's a two-way street. If they back off again, I will shut off my phone and spend the rest of the Christmas and New Year's time with my family, and good luck to all of these fools."
While Arum is making plans for an alternative fight for Pacquiao against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi -- who has also accused Pacquiao of using PEDs -- if the Mayweather fight falls apart, Schaefer said he hasn't discussed an alternative with Mayweather.
"We haven't discussed anybody else because the fight we want to bring to the fight fans is the one with Pacquiao," he said. "The focus is on getting Mayweather-Pacquiao done while Bob is making calls everywhere on the Malignaggi fight. That shows his focus is not on Mayweather.
Everyone on this site misses the obvious point. This is a game of leverage, pride and mind games gone completely overboard. Floyd made these demands about OST, as well as, accusations of Pac on steroids to gain a psychological advantage before the fight. He tried to get into Pac's head and have this huge media circus about random blood testing and Pac having to do damage control over his reputation. Floyd is not scared of Pacman, look at his record. Anyone willing to fight for a living, fight a very competitive list of opponents at that, is not scared to fight another man. However, this doesn't mean Pac has to agree to these demands. If he know's he is clean and feels he doesn't have to prove it, thats his decision. If Pac gives in to one demand, will there be another demand? Or another? Floyd could easily have dropped those demands or even COMPROMISED. It's called pride on both parts!
Nothing in credible ANYMORE in this sistuation, we got Pacquiao fans trying to erase Bob Arums record of being a lying, sneaky promoter.
Hell, the guy has even been raided acouple of times by the FBI, but Pacquaio fans only want to talk about Floyd and Law enforcement.
I say negogiations should be done on video, otherwise we will never know who is lying.
ALL promoters lie, including Delahoya, there into Marketing, and they will do anything to make money, it's been proven that Arum is a snake in the 70,'s - 80's, and early 90's.
And more recently when he lied about the mediation.
Mosley should juice up to even the fight, simply because Manny is juiced up. You know would have been a GOOD WAY to call Floyd out????
Mosley vs Manny should have OST, if both fighters took it up to fight, there would be no question as to who is ducking, Floyd would be CALLED out that easily.
Even Roach has talked about Mosley being back on PED, if there fighter is on something, they should have said, lets take OST just like you did with Floyd.
Who the hell would take a JUICE tests from someone who's saying that his opponent should JUICE UP?
They are tested under commission rules just like every other fighter, same rules that GBP have used on ALL OF THEIR CARDS, except for ONE fight.
Everyone on this site misses the obvious point. This is a game of leverage, pride and mind games gone completely overboard. Floyd made these demands about OST, as well as, accusations of Pac on steroids to gain a psychological advantage before the fight. He tried to get into Pac's head and have this huge media circus about random blood testing and Pac having to do damage control over his reputation. Floyd is not scared of Pacman, look at his record. Anyone willing to fight for a living, fight a very competitive list of opponents at that, is not scared to fight another man. However, this doesn't mean Pac has to agree to these demands. If he know's he is clean and feels he doesn't have to prove it, thats his decision. If Pac gives in to one demand, will there be another demand? Or another? Floyd could easily have dropped those demands or even COMPROMISED. It's called pride on both parts!
Let me ask you a question...If you were fighting for 50 million dollars, you wouldn't take a TEST?????
I would take the test in a heart beat, especially if I aint got nothing to hide.
I would take the test just to prove how the person asking for the test is full of ****.
Your right, if you can read you can see the lies. How can you have a BS lawsuit against someone you truly wanna make a deal with? Some on Boxing Scene seem to be quick to get the story out sometimes without verifying it's validity which a lot of times ends up being wrong. Freddie was the first to say Manny wasn't ready he also avoided Shane coming off Margarito. You don't avoid Marquez but really wanna face Floyd!!! The thing I think you and others need to do is call a lie a lie no matter where it comes from that's the way I was brought up.
"We'll have a change in sparring partners and style because Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see." Freddie Roach.
TRANSLATION:
Manny Pacquiao ain't ready for Floyd
even after his best performances.
Don't take the Blood test Manny!!!
[IMG]http://i67.***********.com/albums/h315/GRUSTLER/Burgess-Meredith-Rocky2.jpg[/IMG] YOU CAN'T WIN PAC!!!!
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