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  • waxfondler
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    #191
    wooooow.... people on here are idiots, everyone claims they know what went on during negotiations... we can only go by what is said PUBLICLY & on record.

    • first negotiations failed = pac refused testing (like an idiot). fights clottey
    • second negotiations = OST 14-24 cut-off option... but turned to "NO cut-off"... then became "no negotiations happened"... until HBO confirmed negotiations HAPPENED.... team mayweather looks foolish... bob arum surprisingly told the truth. al haymon is silent as ALWAYS.
    • ongoing defamation suit against GBP & mayweathers... IMO, i would take the tests & continue with lawsuit... GBP (partially promoting pac) did a horrible thing by helping plant the seed of doubt. they did not act in the best interest of their client (pac)... its one thing if floyd says it... but its completely inappropriate for a promotional company to bash their own client.
    • pac agrees to "no cut-off" to call floyds bluff (on record)...
    • floyd continues his vacation... AVOIDS martinez... continues to bash pacquiao behind the computer screen... has emotional meltdown & gets into legal troubles.
    • rumors and articles stating testing is not an issue for floyd anymore (during the IRS articles)... rumors of 100m request, signing with don king, etc...
    • possible third negotiations = mandela family involved... africa.... etc.... blood testing not an issue.... 100m request for floyd....
    • rumors of spafadora on NUMEROUS articles... floyd denies... many "credible" sources confirm talks WERE happening.
    • floyd scouting berto/ortiz
    • pac/mosley fight nearing
    • like clockwork, floyd begs for spotlight attention (urges BOXING fans to watch lady gaga INSTEAD of BOXING)

    floyd is NOT GBP.... and for any IDIOT that claims top rank DOESNT collab with other promotors is BS... dibella, goossen, king, etc DONT have problems co-promoting with arum... they play rather nice together. so people need to quit with that EXCUSE...

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    • GRUSTLER
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      #192
      Bob Arum is already trying to make a fight with Juan Manuel Marquez at 147. All this talk about accepting Floyd's demand and wanting to make the fight him is bull**** because if that was the case, immediately after every fight Arum would be trying to make the fight with Floyd and not offering Marquez money to fight Pac next when he hasn't even fought Mosley yet. Pac fans are dumb asses for believing a guy who said this about Mosley prior to the fight being signed....

      "I did and I read them saying Mosley was huffing and puffing for air in the fourth or fifth round," Arum said. "To me, that is the real tipoff for an aging fighter. Even Big George Foreman did that in his 40s but he always had that big, big punch like in the (Michael) Moorer fight.

      "What I've read is not very supportive to make any Mosley-Pacquiao bout. Look, he's going to be 40 and he's in the lighter weights where speed is so important. He's on a show with guys (example, 20 year old Saul Canelo Alvarez) old enough to be his son.

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      Pac fans..... You guys are delusional.

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      • BoxingFollower
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        #193
        Originally posted by KTFO
        I agree that Sergio is too much for Pacquiao and Mayweather. I don't necessarily think Pac or May are scared of Sergio, but, the risk of fighting someone actually bigger and skilled is too great to overcome for both. P4P isn't made to match fighters but compare fighters throughout the different weight classes. What if the Klitschko bro's called out Sergio? Is he scared for negotiating a fight? Pac vs May was a rare occasion when the top 2 fighters in the world were basically side by side in the same division. Sad for boxing that the match couldn't move forward.
        The Klitschko's are to BIG for Sergio, there 2 weight classes above him.

        In the end, Sergio said he would come down to 154 to make a fight with Floyd or Manny, Floyd & Manny fights at 154 all the time, well Pac at a catchweight.

        Anyway, nothing is stopping Pacquiao for coming in under 154, heck Margarito outweighed Pacquiao by 20lbs didn't he I believe?

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        • GRUSTLER
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          #194
          Originally posted by waxfondler
          wooooow.... people on here are idiots, everyone claims they know what went on during negotiations... we can only go by what is said PUBLICLY & on record.

          • first negotiations failed = pac refused testing (like an idiot). fights clottey
          • second negotiations = OST 14-24 cut-off option... but turned to "NO cut-off"... then became "no negotiations happened"... until HBO confirmed negotiations HAPPENED.... team mayweather looks foolish... bob arum surprisingly told the truth. al haymon is silent as ALWAYS.
          • ongoing defamation suit against GBP & mayweathers... IMO, i would take the tests & continue with lawsuit... GBP (partially promoting pac) did a horrible thing by helping plant the seed of doubt. they did not act in the best interest of their client (pac)... its one thing if floyd says it... but its completely inappropriate for a promotional company to bash their own client.
          • pac agrees to "no cut-off" to call floyds bluff (on record)...
          • floyd continues his vacation... PAC AVOIDS martinez by using the TOO SMALL excuse... Martinez should have never gave Pac an out by saying that after thrashing of Paul Williams. Floyd continues to bash pacquiao behind the computer screen... has emotional meltdown & gets into legal troubles.
          • rumors and articles stating testing is not an issue for floyd anymore (during the IRS articles)... rumors of 100m request, signing with don king, etc...
          • possible third negotiations = mandela family involved... africa.... etc.... blood testing not an issue.... 100m request for floyd....
          • rumors of spafadora on NUMEROUS articles... floyd denies... many "credible" sources confirm talks WERE happening.
          • floyd scouting berto/ortiz
          • pac/mosley fight nearing
          • like clockwork, floyd begs for spotlight attention (urges BOXING fans to watch lady gaga INSTEAD of BOXING)

          floyd is NOT GBP.... and for any IDIOT that claims top rank DOESNT collab with other promotors is BS... dibella, goossen, king, etc DONT have problems co-promoting with arum... they play rather nice together. so people need to quit with that EXCUSE...
          Fixed it for you.

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          • Deevel916
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            #195
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            Bob Arum is already trying to make a fight with Juan Manuel Marquez at 147. All this talk about accepting Floyd's demand and wanting to make the fight him is bull**** because if that was the case, immediately after every fight Arum would be trying to make the fight with Floyd and not offering Marquez money to fight Pac next when he hasn't even fought Mosley yet. Pac fans are dumb asses for believing a guy who said this about Mosley prior to the fight being signed....




            Pac fans..... You guys are delusional.
            Its seems as if you're more concerned with pointing fingers for the fight not happening up until this point, rather than being glad that Pac has agreed to Floyd's testing demands. Isnt this what Floyd and you guys wanted? You should be happy. All Floyd has to do now is call thier bluff. If what Pac and Arum are saying is true, then we have a fight!

            Something tells me that you're only concerned with what Floyd wants rather than the fight itself.

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            • Deevel916
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              #196
              Originally posted by BoxingFollower
              The Klitschko's are to BIG for Sergio, there 2 weight classes above him.

              In the end, Sergio said he would come down to 154 to make a fight with Floyd or Manny, Floyd & Manny fights at 154 all the time, well Pac at a catchweight.

              Anyway, nothing is stopping Pacquiao for coming in under 154, heck Margarito outweighed Pacquiao by 20lbs didn't he I believe?
              Even if the fight his held at 154, Martinez comes in on fight night around 170! Marg weighed 163lbs on fight night and following that fight, Pac and Roach stated that they would be returning to 147 because the size disadvantage would be too much for Pac.

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              • bunnybounce
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                #197
                Originally posted by el salsalero
                KFC's DUCKING EXCUSES:


                1. OST

                2. 100 Million


                And the New Ducking Excuse of the Year!!!


                KO Mosley or NO FIGHT!!!
                Hey, add Lady GaGa's concert.. nyahahahaha!!!

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                • BoxingFollower
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  Its seems as if you're more concerned with pointing fingers for the fight not happening up until this point, rather than being glad that Pac has agreed to Floyd's testing demands. Isnt this what Floyd and you guys wanted? You should be happy. All Floyd has to do now is call thier bluff. If what Pac and Arum are saying is true, then we have a fight!

                  Something tells me that you're only concerned with what Floyd wants rather than the fight itself.
                  Pacquiao could call Floyds bluff also.

                  All Pacquiao had to do with the Mosley fight is make it OST. If Pacquiao vs Mosley would have been OST then it would have been GREAT.

                  He would have proven that Floyd is ducking. Thats to late now, so lets say if Pacquiao faces JMM next, all he has to do is once again call Floyd's Bluff.

                  Tonight, once again, all he has to do is say "Im willing to take test up until the NIGHT of the fight, and thats it, it would be proven that Floyd is ducking.

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                  • iNDOLiFER
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Deevel916
                    When Arum first stated that Pac agreed to the tests, *****'s cried out that it needs to come out of Pac's mouth. During a video taped interview Pac stated that he agreed to all of Floyd's testing demands to see if that was the real reason Floyd doesnt want to fight him. *****'s then stated that Pac is lying and since Bob is the one who calls the shots, it needs to come out of his mouth. Bob now confirms what Pac said in regards to agreeing to Floyd's testing demands, and now the *****'s are saying Arum is lying! LOL.

                    You cant make this ***** up! Hahahaha......

                    There's also another issue of Floyd demanding $100mil guarantee to take the fight. *****'s are either claiming its a lie or defending his demand. I dont even know what to say anymore.

                    *****s should be rejoicing and hitting up Floyd online to tell him that Pac agreed. The ball is in Floyd's court now. Lets see if he plays or folds.

                    LOL!! hit the nail right on the spot!

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                    • BoxingFollower
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Deevel916
                      Even if the fight his held at 154, Martinez comes in on fight night around 170! Marg weighed 163lbs on fight night and following that fight, Pac and Roach stated that they would be returning to 147 because the size disadvantage would be too much for Pac.
                      Well they need to sign something until the contract to guarantee that Sergio will come in under 165, and thats the limit.

                      Trust me man, it can be done, Arum just knows that his cash cow will go up in flames from Sergio's right hand.

                      Pacquiao is not scared of Sergio, but Arum is.

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