Ortiz stands better chance against Pac

[Hallaqsillaq]

Explain me something: how does a younger, bigger and stronger guy get eaten alive by a smaller, older, natural fw/sfw?! Ortiz isn't slow, he's a natural ww and as I said already, he has power and his hands are fast too. If he lands enuff punches on Pacneedle, thats it. Nowhere to go. Steroids or not, he's still just human.

I don't know if he'd beat Manny, but the 161 lb Victor is a pretty tough customer for any current WW. I agree with you on that.

[Fights.]

Has Manny ever even fought a southpaw???? he probably would freak out if he werent in with an orthodox mummy! He'd probably put in a stipulation that Ortiz has to fight right handed.

Pacquiao fought DOZEN southpaws > Ortiz fought ONE southpaw

[pgolf]

Fair statement. However, both can and will beat Ortiz, if and when they meet. I do see FMJ schooling Ortiz more than Pac.

Funny you mentioned Marg, Cotto and Clottey. I think all three beats Ortiz @147

[Tamis!]

Has Manny ever even fought a southpaw???? he probably would freak out if he werent in with an orthodox mummy! He'd probably put in a stipulation that Ortiz has to fight right handed.

Do you really watch/follow boxing?

[Hallaqsillaq]

Fair statement. However, both can and will beat Ortiz, if and when they meet. I do see FMJ schooling Ortiz more than Pac.

Funny you mentioned Marg, Cotto and Clottey. I think all three beats Ortiz @147

I'm not convinced. I think it may just be a fight any can win. Victor always looked massive to me at JWW, he may have been draining too much. But I'm no expert...

[Larry the boss]

Has Manny ever even fought a southpaw???? he probably would freak out if he werent in with an orthodox mummy! He'd probably put in a stipulation that Ortiz has to fight right handed.

feb 2011..is that the month you started watching boxing??

[Larry the boss]

mannys to quick and to smart for ortiz..ortiz just bulled his way in on berto and broke his will..dat aint gone happen with manny

[Perfect Plex]

Pacquiao would destroy him. I'd give him a better chance with Floyd.

[Pastrano]

mannys to quick and to smart for ortiz..ortiz just bulled his way in on berto and broke his will..dat aint gone happen with manny

Too SMART?!?Lol! Manny has never been too smart for a top US fighter.

[Picazo]

I agree he has an easier time hitting Manny and counting Ortiz power that is a big part of his game but he has a less painful night fighting Mayweather and probably more of a learning exp. Either guy I believe has a hard night, Ortiz if a big guy and quicker than most of the fighters either has been fighting... not to mention his power and technique. Tough night for any WW