Mayweather is still #1 P4P

[TheTruth!]

err because Hagler had success in one weight class, got beat by SRL, and hasnt fought and beaten anywhere near the AMOUNT of quality Pacman has. Neither did Whitaker, Joe defo didnt.

And get this, Pacquiao did it in 8 weight classes, the 3 you named didnt even do that between them.

Get a grip son

Neither Hagler nor Whitaker had the fortune of being spoon-fed shot leftovers coming down in weight the way Manny has, so it's quite hard to even compare their accomplishments by looking at "names on the resume". Having said that, the quality of opposition that Whitaker and Hagler faced were far superior to anyone Manny has faced with the only hope for comparison being Morales (whom Manny lost against) and Marquez (whom most analyst think beat Pacquiao twice).

Put the type of flat-footed corpse fighters that Manny has been fighting against Hagler and I can assure you he goes to Prison for murder.

[TheTruth!]

Please break it down for me, what has Pacquiao done since 2008 that makes him the greatest boxer ever except be a Filipino? Nobody was talking about him as an atg 3 years ago...

Pacquiao's last fight against an elite fighter at the top of their game was against Marquez... and even the Filipino boxing analyst said Marquez really won that fight.

[puga]

Please break it down for me, what has Pacquiao done since 2008 that makes him the greatest boxer ever except be a Filipino? Nobody was talking about him as an atg 3 years ago...

so you want the boxing community to ignore what pac did before 2008?....lol
pac 3 years agao was already labeled as the henry arstrong of this generation ...you prolly dont know sicne your were not a boxing fan then which is fine....who said pac is the greateest?...

[The_Golden_Goy]

Please break it down for me, what has Pacquiao done since 2008 that makes him the greatest boxer ever except be a Filipino? Nobody was talking about him as an atg 3 years ago...

because he's done something exceptional. More exceptional than Henry Armstrong, more than Jones Jr at HW in terms of successful weight jumps. He's beaten so many current and former world champions i wouldnt know where to even start. hes exciting, devastating left hand, well rounded fighter now, the face of the sport. He has the total package at the moment.

And Im not even a nuthugger, I just respect what hes done and continues to do. I hate the bandwagon people jump on. But with pacman, youve just got to take a step back and appreciate what you're seeing. He's done achieved more than Jones Jr, more than Hopkins, more than Barrera, Morales and Marquez put together. And more than Floyd Mayweather...

I sound like a fckin Pacman f*g right now, but its just how it is in the sport atm

[TheTruth!]

so you want the boxing community to ignore what pac did before 2008?....lol
pac 3 years agao was already labeled as the henry arstrong of this generation ...you prolly dont know sicne your were not a boxing fan then which is fine....who said pac is the greateest?...

No, he wasn't. 3 years ago he was being labeled as an exciting fighter with many short-comings that would prevent him from beating anyone elite in the higher weight divisions. Especially after most analyst viewed him as "exposed" against Marquez. He wasn't "considered the Henry Armstrong" until the DLH fight, because the fact is that Manny was bigger than everyone of any significance in the lower weight divisions. (even bigger, ironically, than DLH that night)

Since 2008, his team have sold him as "Improved" which has finally put him among the greats, because they are giving the illusion he's defeating the bigger fighters with skills rather than by handicaps. (coming down in weight, flat footed, coming off a brutal loss, old, etc) Their marketing strategy has worked wonderfully, I must admit.

[The_Golden_Goy]

Neither Hagler nor Whitaker had the fortune of being spoon-fed shot leftovers coming down in weight the way Manny has, so it's quite hard to even compare their accomplishments by looking at "names on the resume". Having said that, the quality of opposition that Whitaker and Hagler faced were far superior to anyone Manny has faced with the only hope for comparison being Morales (whom Manny lost against) and Marquez (whom most analyst think beat Pacquiao twice).

Put the type of flat-footed corpse fighters that Manny has been fighting against Hagler and I can assure you he goes to Prison for murder.

Hagler lost to a nowhere-near-his-prime Ray leonard, and beat a one handed Hearns. Doesnt say much IMO

For me Hagler is the worst of the four. It goes SRL, Hearns, Duran, Hagler

[Saddlebred]

so you want the boxing community to ignore what pac did before 2008?....lol
pac 3 years agao was already labeled as the henry arstrong of this generation ...you prolly dont know sicne your were not a boxing fan then which is fine....who said pac is the greateest?...

I call Poe's Law on you...if you aren't a troll, I would like to know what Pacquiao has done to become an ATG since 2008 when he wasn't even in the conversation 3 years ago. I can't deny his domination of MAB or many of his other fights, Pacquiao is a beast...but I am asking you what he has done since 2008 that has pushed him into the equation amongst the best fighters of all-time (except be the same skin color as you)

[puga]

No, he wasn't. 3 years ago he was being labeled as an exciting fighter with many short-comings that would prevent him from beating anyone elite in the higher weight divisions. Especially after most analyst viewed him as "exposed" against Marquez. He wasn't "considered the Henry Armstrong" until the DLH fight, because the fact is that Manny was bigger than everyone of any significance in the lower weight divisions. (even bigger, ironically, than DLH that night)

Since 2008, his team have sold him as "Improved" which has finally put him among the greats, because they are giving the illusion he's defeating the bigger fighters with skills rather than by handicaps. (coming down in weight, flat footed, coming off a brutal loss, old, etc) Their marketing strategy has worked wonderfully, I must admit.

yes he was.....3 years ago , pac has already been a 5 div champion and 3 lineal champion.....it was afer the diaz fight was he called the henry arstrong of this generation....henry arsmtrong was also bigger than some of his oppenets, the size diffrence were only 4 to 5 lbs expet for one fight....arstrong never beat a guy 17 lbs bigger than him or close to that....

[TheTruth!]

Hagler lost to a nowhere-near-his-prime Ray leonard, and beat a one handed Hearns. Doesnt say much IMO

For me Hagler is the worst of the four. It goes SRL, Hearns, Duran, Hagler

Pacquiao lost to a past-prime Morales, who was smaller and shop worn, and beat a one-handed Cotto coming off a plaster beat-down.

SRL ................................. > Morales .... > plastered catch-weight Cotto

[Saddlebred]

Hagler lost to a nowhere-near-his-prime Ray leonard, and beat a one handed Hearns. Doesnt say much IMO

For me Hagler is the worst of the four. It goes SRL, Hearns, Duran, Hagler

So what has Pacquiao done that makes him better than any of those 4? I even have trouble ranking him as a top 3 p4p southpaw of all-time.