Mayweather vs Ortiz is a better fight than either of Pac's last 3 opponents combined!

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  • LeG00N
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    #91
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    Its not impressive when you set conditions to hurt them and advantage you , I just cant believe fans cant see the difference in lets say Oscar for instance that they both fought Floyd gave him a 16 pounds and Manny was heavier than him , dont your think thats going to turn Oscar into a rag ,

    I can only put it down to kids on a computer that have never had a go at boxing and have no understanding of weight , the average fan which is the majority of this board are made up of WWE style hype junkies .
    Asking JMM to fight at 147

    when he made cotto come in at 144 LOL

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      #92
      Man, forget Floyd.....this is a boxing forum right? Floyd doesn't box anymore right? Dude needs to box if he is a "boxer" not be in the news for charges, that's for chumps.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Maniac310
        each other
        Maybe they will.

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        • Reloaded
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          #94
          Originally posted by Maniac310
          Asking JMM to fight at 147

          when he made cotto come in at 144 LOL
          Lol , yeah he does it all the time its like cherry picking with and having an unfair advantage attached , he is not asking JMM they are saying 147 or NO fight , considering the direct history of their trilogy that is so plastic . .

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            #95
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            Its not impressive when you set conditions to hurt them and advantage you , I just cant believe fans cant see the difference in lets say Oscar for instance that they both fought Floyd gave him a 16 pounds and Manny was heavier than him , dont your think thats going to turn Oscar into a rag ,

            I can only put it down to kids on a computer that have never had a go at boxing and have no understanding of weight , the average fan which is the majority of this board are made up of WWE style hype junkies .
            Well I know about the sport and I Know Pac likes to have advantages.
            But it is no different than Leonard when he wanted 12 rounds against hagler,
            or what Delahoya did to Mayweather, what Mayweather did to Marquez coming in over 144.

            Pacquiao is not the first fighter to seek advantages.
            My point is if these fighters agree to it , then whats the problem?
            Nobody forced them to agree to those terms.

            That money made them agree to it. As you can see Mayweather won't fight Pacquaio without blood test but other fighters will.

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              #96
              are you kidding man? anyone that saw ortiz-berto should clearly see ortiz has no chance against floyd, and his style is tailor made for him. got no jab, comes in wild, chin up and open to counters all night. mayweather would put on a counter punching clinic on ortiz. this is still victor ortiz man, he didn't suddenly get super powers beating an unproven berto.

              pacquiao would likely hattonize ortiz in a few rounds, in granted what would be an exciting short fight. no way is he a better win than clottey, margo, and even mosley.

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                #97
                Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN
                Well I know about the sport and I Know Pac likes to have advantages.
                But it is no different than Leonard when he wanted 12 rounds against hagler,
                or what Delahoya did to Mayweather, what Mayweather did to Marquez coming in over 144.

                Pacquiao is not the first fighter to seek advantages.
                My point is if these fighters agree to it , then whats the problem?
                Nobody forced them to agree to those terms.

                That money made them agree to it. As you can see Mayweather won't fight Pacquaio without blood test but other fighters will.
                out of all the catchweight fights there have been in history, leonard had 3 of them, pacquiao is probably the smallest guy who ever asked for one, and definately had already gone up more weights than anyone. Plus he always gave up weight to his opponents at the weigh in, which would suggest the cathweight was legitimate. but you know, haters gonna hate

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Fighting Pride
                  are you kidding man? anyone that saw ortiz-berto should clearly see ortiz has no chance against floyd, and his style is tailor made for him. got no jab, comes in wild, chin up and open to counters all night. mayweather would put on a counter punching clinic on ortiz. this is still victor ortiz man, he didn't suddenly get super powers beating an unproven berto.

                  pacquiao would likely hattonize ortiz in a few rounds, in granted what would be an exciting short fight. no way is he a better win than clottey, margo, and even mosley.
                  I agree wholeheartedly man. A great win for Ortiz sure but I was just waiting for the day when Berto would lose it against a guy who was ready for the title. He was badly overhyped and I was ready to put points on both Clottey and Mosley to beat him. Like I said, great win for Ortiz but Mayweather will eat him up if he comes in with no jab and is sloppy like he was with Berto.

                  Pac sparks Ortiz out in a short but entertaining fight...5 or 6 rds tops.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Lol , yeah he does it all the time its like cherry picking with and having an unfair advantage attached , he is not asking JMM they are saying 147 or NO fight , considering the direct history of their trilogy that is so plastic . .
                    This is funny.

                    A Floyd fan criticizing a probable fight (terms not agreed or known yet) when his hero Floyd fought Marquez at WW .... had an agreement at a catchweight then Floyd negged on it and came at a higher weight.

                    At least Manny fought Marquez TWICE and at Marquez's fight weight. Can't say that about Floyd vs Marquez!!!


                    So Floyd PAID Marquez money so he can have an advantage .... it's ironic since Floyd said all he wants is a "FAIR" fight (with Manny) ... I guess, that is a must except when Floyd gets the advantage..... Oh, and you even have this comment in that PIC..... lol!

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                      #100
                      Floyd came in the ring over 160 pounds against JMM, PAC has been around 145 in ring lately, so if they fight it won't be the same size mismatch.

                      And Ortiz and Floyd ain't fighting! How many times does this need to be said? They both denied it, Floyd flat out denied even thinking much about the sport and said he was not at the berto - Ortiz fight to scope a potential opponent.

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