Chavez V Randall II ( Chavez quit and should have lost the TD)

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Randall was on steroids for the 1st and 2nd fights, but since there was no rematch clause, randall wasnt gonna give Chavez the rematch, unless Chavez agreed to not make public accusations that Randall was on steroids.

This is similar to what happened to Margarito when he fought Mosley.
Margarito was to not make public accusations that Mosley was on steroids, if he wanted to get re-licensed and big money fights down the road.

Margarito was instructed by Arum (through DelaHoya) to lie, and say that he had to "lose too much weight", as for the reason he lost to Mosley.

Do you actually know how dumb you sound right now. Make it up as you go

[MexicanBorder]

Do you actually know how dumb you sound right now. Make it up as you go

What proof do you have of the opposite of what I stated, besides making a pathetic whining comment like:......."do you who dumb you sound"??

[figzuki]

What proof do you have of the opposite of what I stated, besides making a pathetic whining comment like:......."do you who dumb you sound"??

i believe u prove him right with this lol

[STREET CLEANER]

What proof do you have of the opposite of what I stated, besides making a pathetic whining comment like:......."do you who dumb you sound"??

you have none. so dont talk like you know. unless they told u themselves

[MexicanBorder]

you have none. so dont talk like you know. unless they told u themselves

you have no proof of the opposite.

Mosley was on EPO Steroids for the Margarito fight.

Mosley has been using steroids for the last 10 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JMIB7g1mq0

Mosley was gonna be tested for steroids in Vegas before the Margarito fight, but he had Oscar move the fight from Vegas to Cali, so that Mosley can avoid detection of EPO, cause EPO can only be caught with blood tests.
and Cali only does urine tests, which doesnt catch EPO users.

you dont know this, cause you dont know jack-****t about boxing, except to make lies up, for Cotto's and other PR's losses.

[STREET CLEANER]

you have no proof of the opposite.

Mosley was on EPO Steroids for the Margarito fight.

Mosley has been using steroids for the last 10 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JMIB7g1mq0

Mosley was gonna be tested for steroids in Vegas before the Margarito fight, but he had Oscar move the fight from Vegas to Cali, so that Mosley can avoid detection of EPO, cause EPO can only be caught with blood tests.
and Cali only does urine tests, which doesnt catch EPO users.

you dont know this, cause you dont know jack-****t about boxing, except to make lies up, for Cotto's and other PR's losses.

If that is what you want to believe and it makes you sleep better at night then believe that. What ever tickles your pickle

[MexicanBorder]

Mosley isnt the only cheater in boxing.

Tito Trinidad is another well-known cheater:

Felix Trinidas KO Power Came From Illegal CinderBlock Handwraps.

The cats out the bag on how a welterweight was able to move 2 weight classes north to the middleweights and knock out only one middleweight with the use of cinderblockillegalhandwraps.

Once Bernard Hopkins expertise of Bouie Fisher came on the scene on September 27th, 2001 and made The Sneaky Don Felix take off Tito's left hand wrap and re-wrap in accordance with NYSAC rules we saw how Felix Tito Trinidad was able to make tremendouls leap into the middleweights and knock out just one middleweight with devastating power (generated by illegal cinderblock handwraps.)

The same middleweight whom Tito knocked out was able to go 12 hard long grueling rounds with the number middleweight a few years later. How can that be? Honest unbiased fight fans will have to admit that every since Tito's hands have been legally wrapped Felix has struggled to perform with the same efficiency as pre-hopkins. Read the article below. It gives indepth insight into how Felix Trinidad made a career out of devastating knock outs with illegal handwraps.

Cherifi Better Watch Tito's Hand Wraps.
Exclusive by Ron Heard

On September 29, 2001 before the fight between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad, team Hopkins sent a representative from their team to over-see Tito's hands being wrapped. When their representative arrived he was shocked to see that Tito's left hand was already wrapped, signed off and the boxing glove was on. In an exclusive interview Bernard Hopkins (said), "I sent my team in there to watch Trinidad wrap his hands and when they got there
Trinidad's left hand was already wrapped and he had his boxing glove on. So my trainer, Bouie Fisher who has been doing this stuff for a long time went over there to straighten it up. The thing is Trinidad has been getting away with doing this for a long time. I know for a fact that he has done it at least one other fight. They are used to being able to do whatever they want and get away with it. That is how it is in boxing."

First of all, you have to wonder who this commissioner was that let Don Felix wrap Tito's hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp being there. Hopkins said, "not only did he let him wrap the hands without us being there, but he was in there joking and laughing and talking Spanish with the Trinidads like they were best friends. When Bouie told them that he would have to take it off and rewrap it in front of someone fron their camp, he said "NO," its
already wrapped and it's too close to time for the fight to start. Bouie had to go to the head commissioner before they were made to rewrap his hands."
Luckily for Hopkins, Bouie Fisher is old school and he was not going to let this fight go on with Tito having wrapped his left hand and nobody from his camp watching it. "Bouie kept telling them, either we do this by the book or we don't do it all," said Hopkins.

It didn't make since to Fisher why the Trinidad's
were so insistent on not rewrapping the hand because obviously they knew the rules. They have been in enough of these big fights to know that a representative from the other camp is allowed to be in the room while they are wrapping Tito's hand. Even if the New York Commission's Representative didn't know any better, the Trinidads definitely did. The Trinidads went so far as to actually say, "If we have to rewrap Tito's hand then there will be no fight."
Why was this left hand wrapping so important to the Trinidads?
Finally, after the head commissioner became involved the Trinidads were told to either rewrap the left hand or the fight was off. After much argument, they finally agreed to rewrap the hand with a member from the Hopkins team present.

Tito was made to remove his glove and the prior wrapping in front of Hopkins representative Naazim Richardson who noticed that the wrap looked very thick and when he felt it he says it was as hard as a rock. All the sudden it became very clear why they had tried to get away with wrapping the left hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp watching and also why they didn't want to remove it and rewrap the hand.

Don Felix began to rewrap the hand again, but Richardson noticed that Don Felix was putting layers of tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze which is not in accordance with NYSAC rules. The rules stipulate tape cannot be applied directly over the knuckles, and that repeating the process several times (is not permitted).
In an interview with Bernard Fernandez of Philly.com, Hopkins said, "If you put on tape, then gauze, then tape, then gauze, it's like a [plaster] cast. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. I'm giving out some secrets here, but you can dip your hands in ice water and that tape will, like, marinate and become harder. But it's only cheating if you get caught. Personally, I think Vargas' and Reid's people dropped the ball. Naazim did a brilliant job in spotting what [Felix Trinidad Sr.] was doing with the wraps." Don Felix was also putting tape on the skin and over the knuckles, both of which are not in accordance with NYSAC rules. New York's head commissioner put his foot down and made Don Felix wrap in strict accordance to the rules.

Don Felix has insisted in several interviews that, "I have always wrapped Tito's hands this way and nobody else has ever said anything."
That’s like saying, I beat my wife all the time and I've never got in trouble for it before. Now, all the sudden you guys want to make a big deal out this. That's just not right, I'm a respectable man.

[MexicanBorder]

If that is what you want to believe and it makes you sleep better at night then believe that. What ever tickles your pickle

The video doesnt lie.

Do you have a video that says the opposite????

No , I dont think so.
All you can come up with, is lies.

[MexicanBorder]

Mosley isnt the only cheater in boxing.

Tito Trinidad is another well-known cheater:

Felix Trinidas KO Power Came From Illegal CinderBlock Handwraps.

The cats out the bag on how a welterweight was able to move 2 weight classes north to the middleweights and knock out only one middleweight with the use of cinderblockillegalhandwraps.

Once Bernard Hopkins expertise of Bouie Fisher came on the scene on September 27th, 2001 and made The Sneaky Don Felix take off Tito's left hand wrap and re-wrap in accordance with NYSAC rules we saw how Felix Tito Trinidad was able to make tremendouls leap into the middleweights and knock out just one middleweight with devastating power (generated by illegal cinderblock handwraps.)

The same middleweight whom Tito knocked out was able to go 12 hard long grueling rounds with the number middleweight a few years later. How can that be? Honest unbiased fight fans will have to admit that every since Tito's hands have been legally wrapped Felix has struggled to perform with the same efficiency as pre-hopkins. Read the article below. It gives indepth insight into how Felix Trinidad made a career out of devastating knock outs with illegal handwraps.

Cherifi Better Watch Tito's Hand Wraps.
Exclusive by Ron Heard

On September 29, 2001 before the fight between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad, team Hopkins sent a representative from their team to over-see Tito's hands being wrapped. When their representative arrived he was shocked to see that Tito's left hand was already wrapped, signed off and the boxing glove was on. In an exclusive interview Bernard Hopkins (said), "I sent my team in there to watch Trinidad wrap his hands and when they got there
Trinidad's left hand was already wrapped and he had his boxing glove on. So my trainer, Bouie Fisher who has been doing this stuff for a long time went over there to straighten it up. The thing is Trinidad has been getting away with doing this for a long time. I know for a fact that he has done it at least one other fight. They are used to being able to do whatever they want and get away with it. That is how it is in boxing."

First of all, you have to wonder who this commissioner was that let Don Felix wrap Tito's hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp being there. Hopkins said, "not only did he let him wrap the hands without us being there, but he was in there joking and laughing and talking Spanish with the Trinidads like they were best friends. When Bouie told them that he would have to take it off and rewrap it in front of someone fron their camp, he said "NO," its
already wrapped and it's too close to time for the fight to start. Bouie had to go to the head commissioner before they were made to rewrap his hands."
Luckily for Hopkins, Bouie Fisher is old school and he was not going to let this fight go on with Tito having wrapped his left hand and nobody from his camp watching it. "Bouie kept telling them, either we do this by the book or we don't do it all," said Hopkins.

It didn't make since to Fisher why the Trinidad's
were so insistent on not rewrapping the hand because obviously they knew the rules. They have been in enough of these big fights to know that a representative from the other camp is allowed to be in the room while they are wrapping Tito's hand. Even if the New York Commission's Representative didn't know any better, the Trinidads definitely did. The Trinidads went so far as to actually say, "If we have to rewrap Tito's hand then there will be no fight."
Why was this left hand wrapping so important to the Trinidads?
Finally, after the head commissioner became involved the Trinidads were told to either rewrap the left hand or the fight was off. After much argument, they finally agreed to rewrap the hand with a member from the Hopkins team present.

Tito was made to remove his glove and the prior wrapping in front of Hopkins representative Naazim Richardson who noticed that the wrap looked very thick and when he felt it he says it was as hard as a rock. All the sudden it became very clear why they had tried to get away with wrapping the left hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp watching and also why they didn't want to remove it and rewrap the hand.

Don Felix began to rewrap the hand again, but Richardson noticed that Don Felix was putting layers of tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze which is not in accordance with NYSAC rules. The rules stipulate tape cannot be applied directly over the knuckles, and that repeating the process several times (is not permitted).
In an interview with Bernard Fernandez of Philly.com, Hopkins said, "If you put on tape, then gauze, then tape, then gauze, it's like a [plaster] cast. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. I'm giving out some secrets here, but you can dip your hands in ice water and that tape will, like, marinate and become harder. But it's only cheating if you get caught. Personally, I think Vargas' and Reid's people dropped the ball. Naazim did a brilliant job in spotting what [Felix Trinidad Sr.] was doing with the wraps." Don Felix was also putting tape on the skin and over the knuckles, both of which are not in accordance with NYSAC rules. New York's head commissioner put his foot down and made Don Felix wrap in strict accordance to the rules.

Don Felix has insisted in several interviews that, "I have always wrapped Tito's hands this way and nobody else has ever said anything."
That’s like saying, I beat my wife all the time and I've never got in trouble for it before. Now, all the sudden you guys want to make a big deal out this. That's just not right, I'm a respectable man.

THE SNEAKY DON FELIX TRINIDAD AND HIS CINDERBLOCK HANDWRAPS. PT. 2.

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Finally, he (The Don) also admits, that not only does the illegal wrap allow Tito to hit harder, but it PREVENTS TITO'S HANDS FROM OPENING ON IMPACT" which actually provides more protection for his hand. So while most fighters have to worry about hitting a fighter on the top of the head in fear of hurting their hands, Tito's hands have extra power and extra protection from illegal hand wraps.

You may think, "Oh Well," it's over. He wrapped the hands illegally, he got caught and was made to rewrap legally - no harm - no foul.
Not exactly.

First of all, Don Felix insists that he is going to continue to wrap Tito's hands the way he has always wrapped them - which is of course, illegally. In the same interview quoted above, Don Felix is asked straight out, "Will you be wrapping Tito’s hands differently for this upcoming fight with Cherifi?" and to my absolute amazement his answer was, "No, we’ll be doing it the same way we’ve always done it because I believe that we wouldn’t have the same problems we had for the last fight. That controversy was really done to fill our heads with too many things at the same time. It was like a type of terrorism in a time when terrorism was in the United States. It was boxing terrorism."

I don't see how you can blame Hopkins for not allowing them to wrap Tito's left hand without anyone from his camp being there. Hown one day the cops come and arrest you just after one of your sparring sessions on her face, you can't blame the cops for terrorizing you just because you got away with it all the other times.

If the wraps were illegal, then they will be and always have been illegal. That is as long as they are in the United States. Which brings up a very interesting twist.

Cherifi better watch very carefully how Tito wraps that left hand, but even if he does, are the same rules applicable in Puerto Rico? Even if the rules are the same will the commission there enforce them?

Regardless, the fact remains; the first reason to pay close attention to this issue is for the protection of Tito's future opponents, such as Cherifi. However, there is another reason. What about Tito's past opponents?

[STREET CLEANER]

Mosley isnt the only cheater in boxing.

Tito Trinidad is another well-known cheater:

Felix Trinidas KO Power Came From Illegal CinderBlock Handwraps.

The cats out the bag on how a welterweight was able to move 2 weight classes north to the middleweights and knock out only one middleweight with the use of cinderblockillegalhandwraps.

Once Bernard Hopkins expertise of Bouie Fisher came on the scene on September 27th, 2001 and made The Sneaky Don Felix take off Tito's left hand wrap and re-wrap in accordance with NYSAC rules we saw how Felix Tito Trinidad was able to make tremendouls leap into the middleweights and knock out just one middleweight with devastating power (generated by illegal cinderblock handwraps.)

The same middleweight whom Tito knocked out was able to go 12 hard long grueling rounds with the number middleweight a few years later. How can that be? Honest unbiased fight fans will have to admit that every since Tito's hands have been legally wrapped Felix has struggled to perform with the same efficiency as pre-hopkins. Read the article below. It gives indepth insight into how Felix Trinidad made a career out of devastating knock outs with illegal handwraps.

Cherifi Better Watch Tito's Hand Wraps.
Exclusive by Ron Heard

On September 29, 2001 before the fight between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad, team Hopkins sent a representative from their team to over-see Tito's hands being wrapped. When their representative arrived he was shocked to see that Tito's left hand was already wrapped, signed off and the boxing glove was on. In an exclusive interview Bernard Hopkins (said), "I sent my team in there to watch Trinidad wrap his hands and when they got there
Trinidad's left hand was already wrapped and he had his boxing glove on. So my trainer, Bouie Fisher who has been doing this stuff for a long time went over there to straighten it up. The thing is Trinidad has been getting away with doing this for a long time. I know for a fact that he has done it at least one other fight. They are used to being able to do whatever they want and get away with it. That is how it is in boxing."

First of all, you have to wonder who this commissioner was that let Don Felix wrap Tito's hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp being there. Hopkins said, "not only did he let him wrap the hands without us being there, but he was in there joking and laughing and talking Spanish with the Trinidads like they were best friends. When Bouie told them that he would have to take it off and rewrap it in front of someone fron their camp, he said "NO," its
already wrapped and it's too close to time for the fight to start. Bouie had to go to the head commissioner before they were made to rewrap his hands."
Luckily for Hopkins, Bouie Fisher is old school and he was not going to let this fight go on with Tito having wrapped his left hand and nobody from his camp watching it. "Bouie kept telling them, either we do this by the book or we don't do it all," said Hopkins.

It didn't make since to Fisher why the Trinidad's
were so insistent on not rewrapping the hand because obviously they knew the rules. They have been in enough of these big fights to know that a representative from the other camp is allowed to be in the room while they are wrapping Tito's hand. Even if the New York Commission's Representative didn't know any better, the Trinidads definitely did. The Trinidads went so far as to actually say, "If we have to rewrap Tito's hand then there will be no fight."
Why was this left hand wrapping so important to the Trinidads?
Finally, after the head commissioner became involved the Trinidads were told to either rewrap the left hand or the fight was off. After much argument, they finally agreed to rewrap the hand with a member from the Hopkins team present.

Tito was made to remove his glove and the prior wrapping in front of Hopkins representative Naazim Richardson who noticed that the wrap looked very thick and when he felt it he says it was as hard as a rock. All the sudden it became very clear why they had tried to get away with wrapping the left hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp watching and also why they didn't want to remove it and rewrap the hand.

Don Felix began to rewrap the hand again, but Richardson noticed that Don Felix was putting layers of tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze which is not in accordance with NYSAC rules. The rules stipulate tape cannot be applied directly over the knuckles, and that repeating the process several times (is not permitted).
In an interview with Bernard Fernandez of Philly.com, Hopkins said, "If you put on tape, then gauze, then tape, then gauze, it's like a [plaster] cast. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. I'm giving out some secrets here, but you can dip your hands in ice water and that tape will, like, marinate and become harder. But it's only cheating if you get caught. Personally, I think Vargas' and Reid's people dropped the ball. Naazim did a brilliant job in spotting what [Felix Trinidad Sr.] was doing with the wraps." Don Felix was also putting tape on the skin and over the knuckles, both of which are not in accordance with NYSAC rules. New York's head commissioner put his foot down and made Don Felix wrap in strict accordance to the rules.

Don Felix has insisted in several interviews that, "I have always wrapped Tito's hands this way and nobody else has ever said anything."
That’s like saying, I beat my wife all the time and I've never got in trouble for it before. Now, all the sudden you guys want to make a big deal out this. That's just not right, I'm a respectable man.

You posted this b4. everybody that beats a mexican fighter cheats in your eyes. I guess Margo to u is as honest as they come