Is Floyd's best win tainted. Was Corrales really dehydrated and weak in the fight

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Shane Mosley has said this before as well.

Oh yes, Floyd's best win was against a truly weight drained opponent. To the *****s, it must be Pacquiao's fault somehow.

may have been, but he went back down a few fights afterward and beat Casamayor....wasn't drained then........

[ReadyUp]

Bottom iine Chico had a problem with movers.
And that night Floyd was boxing phenomenally.
Same result.

And technically, the majority of boxers fight "weight drained". They are professionals. Deal with it. Yes, sometimes you can see that the weight loss is obviously effecting the fighter but in a fight like this you couldn't possibly blame the weight. Especially with everything we know no about both fighters.

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Is it not true that Pac was having problems making weight with Barrera (second fight) hours before their weigh-in??

Is it not true that Top Rank enrolled Morales with Velocity to start a program to lose weight months before he started his actual training??

You make it sound like I am making this up.

And that's the argument you are using as to why he wasn't drained?? That he had to train to lose weight?? Are you aware Alex Ariza was Corrales' conditioning coach for the FMJ fight?? Are you aware Floyd moved up to 135 not long after the Corrales fight stating he cannot make 130 anymore......

The true definition of a weight "drained" fighter is the ODLH that Manny fought. Struggling to make weight does not = weight drained.

[mikemurni]

may have been, but he went back down a few fights afterward and beat Casamayor....wasn't drained then........

So what if he went back down 2 years after that?

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But, neither of those 2 were weight drained either.

So I don't get your point?

Corrales wasn't weight drained. It's obvious that mikemurni doesn't know what he's talking about. Somehow a fighter can be weight drained for 2 fights prior to going to jail. But, not be weight drained 3 years at the same weight. In what World does that make any sense?

Neither Cotto nor Margarito were weight drained.

The only 2 fighters that Pac beat that were weight drained was Oscar and more than likely Morales. That's it.

i have to agree 100%, being drained and struggling to make weight are imo two different things. Most fighters will struggle with the last few pounds always.

[mikemurni]

And that's the argument you are using as to why he wasn't drained?? That he had to train to lose weight?? Are you aware Alex Ariza was Corrales' conditioning coach for the FMJ fight?? Are you aware Floyd moved up to 135 not long after the Corrales fight stating he cannot make 130 anymore......

The true definition of a weight "drained" fighter is the ODLH that Manny fought. Struggling to make weight does not = weight drained.

I didnt say Morales wasnt weight drained. But Corales was more than weight drained than Morales.

Corales was 8 lbs over the limit on the day of the weigh-in. He was 132 just few hours before the weigh-in. At least Morales didnt went through this. He was 130 on the day of the weigh in. When you lose 8 lbs in one day then that means you are weight drain

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So what if he went back down 2 years after that?

so what if Morales essentially had to have two training camps to make 130?? Did he ever go back to 130 after that??

Perhaps you need some better understanding of how the body works....it gets comfortable with the weight you carry for a prolonged period, which is why fatties find it so hard to lose weight (they put it back on). After a long layoff where you are not training constantly or regularly it would make no sense for Corrales to be able to make 130 comfortably two years after being drained at that weight....

Additionally judging by Ariza's work with MP and Khan he is far from incompetent.......

[mikemurni]

so what if Morales essentially had to have two training camps to make 130?? Did he ever go back to 130 after that??

Perhaps you need some better understanding of how the body works....it gets comfortable with the weight you carry for a prolonged period, which is why fatties find it so hard to lose weight (they put it back on). After a long layoff where you are not training constantly or regularly it would make no sense for Corrales to be able to make 130 comfortably two years after being drained at that weight....

Additionally judging by Ariza's work with MP and Khan he is far from incompetent.......

Or unless he was totally malnourished after his stint in prison.. His body was already prime to move up even in the Manfredi fight.

So iit seems you admit that Corales was weight drained because your answer is so far from my reply to your previous post.

Quote from Corales himself:

“I didn’t really realize ’til the third or fourth round that everything was going bad,” said Corrales. “And I was cramping up. … My legs started cramping real good, and I’m going, ‘What’s the deal here?’”

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this is what i have been saying....................to every ***** who thinks this was floyds best win..................

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Excerpts:

For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a g****fruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again.

He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and ****** the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster.


http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=14761

So you see folks, the history of weight draining was started by Floyd himself as early as 2001, months before Pac even had his first fight in the states.

Yes he was weight drained, but Pac fans dont make a fuss of it like *****s do for Pac.