I know a lot of guys believe that Bernard Hopkins will "EXECUTE" and whoop Jermain Taylor this time around.But what if, just what if Jermain whips Hopkins and seals his place in the Middleweight History, could a Felix Tito Trinidad fight be possible between them?I mena there's definitely a lot of money in that fight.Your thoughts guys........
What if Jermain Taylor wins????
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I think Hopkins wins and Tito would be irrelevent
First off I believe Hopkins won the fight. B.H. is notoriously slow in the first few rounds and was hurting Taylor towards the end of the fight when he naturally picked up the pace and began to dominate only a little too late to solidify a win in the eyes of the judges. I don't believe Taylor did enough to dethrone the champ but he did perform and fought very well. I just don't believe he won. When I saw the fight I thought Taylor would one day be champ but he's not dominating this fight. I'm a little old school when it comes to taking a champs belts. You'd better win convincingly. Knock-downs, knock out or complete domination; nothing less will do. I didn't see that in Taylor. I did see Hopkins use his tried and true style which he mastered long ago of starting slow, picking away and coming on stronger as the fight went on. Hopkins has obviously mastered this style and I was not surprised in the manner in which he fought Taylor.
Assuming that Taylor wins the rematch and Hopkins is out of the running for a while I do not believe Tito should come back for a shot at the belts. It could make an interesting match up after a couple of tune up fights. Tito would only take one or two bouts max before demanding a title shot. I hope he doesn't come out of retirement just because Hopkins theoretically loses a rematch. That would be cheesy and rather manipulative of a fighter and managers. Why retire in the first place? Can't take Hopkins so you split until Hopkins is gone? How many former champs will do this? Should they all just lay low until someone they can't beat leaves the scene. Would you have a lot of respect for them if they take a title this way? I don't see the honor in it but business is business and boxing is about maneuvering for fights. In fact, that's the only way to succeed when you're coming up but that's not how a top tier fighter should maneuver. Certainly not a former champ who's already retired twice. Besides, It shakes up the rankings a little too much for my taste. I don't think it's fair to other fighters. It seems like special treatment and would not be just in my opinion. How would you feel if you were an up and coming boxer and then a 3rd return from retirement takes place from Tito?
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Taylor will beat Bitchkins again. He won the first fight & most people think he won the fight, the polls speaks for themselves. Yea the Tito fight will be great, also we can have many other great fights in the middleweight. I think Bitchnard will get KTFO this time. He might get a little brave this time, instead of running like a bunny for 9 rounds.Comment
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If Jermain Taylor wins it'll be for the good of boxing.Originally posted by BurglarWhat if Jermain Taylor wins????
I thought we'd finally got rid of these old has-beens like Hopkins/RJJ but they keep poking their dirty little heads up.
Fingers crossed Taylor and Tarver do the business and this matter to bed!
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I am a huge fan of Hopkins but i agree, the sport of boxing needs young stars to come through and take boxing into the future!Originally posted by Martin.If Jermain Taylor wins it'll be for the good of boxing.
I thought we'd finally got rid of these old has-beens like Hopkins/RJJ but they keep poking their dirty little heads up.
Fingers crossed Taylor and Tarver do the business and this matter to bed!Comment
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The question in the rematch is simple...Who is going to improve more?
People who think Hopkins is going to start faster to me are dead wrong, Hopkins doesnt take risks period, he is a waiter and the first 5 rounds of the rematch will be extremely similiar to the first fight.
1) If this happens I have to believe that Taylor will have the lead thru the first half of the fight.
Now, can Taylor improve over the last six rounds, can he better his performance in the championship rounds? I dont honestly know how he cant improve. Hopkins will come on a bit no doubt but Taylor will be there to meet him this time as opposed to last.
2) All Taylor needs to do in the second half of the fight is come up with a draw and he retains the title.
We saw just a bit of JErmain Taylor's ability in the first fight and I believe we saw BErnard Hopkins, the exact same Hopkins we saw against Felix, the exact same Hopkins we saw against Oscar or Daniels etc. He is not going to start fast, but he will finish hard, if Taylor improves just a little Nard is going to be one upset dude once again when the decision is read.
Taylor needs to win this fight, I have wet dreams thinking about an undefeated Jermain Taylor vs. an undefeated Jeff Lacy...trust me it gets pretty sticky!Comment
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Originally posted by Foldem4meFirst off I believe Hopkins won the fight. B.H. is notoriously slow in the first few rounds and was hurting Taylor towards the end of the fight when he naturally picked up the pace and began to dominate only a little too late to solidify a win in the eyes of the judges. I don't believe Taylor did enough to dethrone the champ but he did perform and fought very well. I just don't believe he won. When I saw the fight I thought Taylor would one day be champ but he's not dominating this fight.
It's not reasonable to expect a 20 time champion to be dominated. Just score the fight on rounds won and Taylor won. The judges and most fans agree. Hopkins followed a late KO strategy (that worked well with Trinidad and ODLH) and he didn't KO Taylor. Simple really.
As for the rematch, how will things be different? I don't believe old man Hopkins can go 12 hard rounds, so he will again give away rounds and not be able to win a decision. We already know that even with a headbutt/concussion assist he can't KO Taylor. Plus, Hopkins is even older this time around and Taylor will be stronger and better conditioned for 12 rounds.
Taylor wins this time more convincingly than the 1st time, probably by decision but a KO is possible if Hopkins tries to match his early pace. NO matter, it is a great fight to anticipate. Bring it on!Comment
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Now that time has passed & the initial controversy has faded....
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That first fight ******.
Because there was so little going on, any little thing one did to the other was completely exaggerrated.
I saw the fight a week later.....& none of what I read, by the HEATED supporters of either, apppeared as described.
I read someone in here say the right hand Hopkins hit Taylor with in the ninth round "sounded like a gun going off!". It was a decent punch AT BEST, & unfortunately...the best shot of the whole fight.
I hope to God this next fight is better. I'm tired of tentativeness being mistaken for technique, startegy, & "boxing".Comment
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