Comments Thread For: Marquez Offered $5 Million For Pacquiao?: I Beat Him Twice!

[lopez36]

Please don't compare the slow and plodding, wide open, wild swinging Margarito to a counterpunch in JMM o

thats excatly what i was thinking when i read his post,although marquez fighting higher than 135 will slow him down but never to the point of margarito...marquez doesn't throw looping punches,marg never counterpunches like marquez,just two totally different boxers,although he will be slower as he goes up in weight and i have noticed he has somewhat declined in speed in the past few fights,age is catching up to him too

[lopez36]

bro, did u know that most of the best fighters are in their early to mid 30's...even as old as late 30's...haters say pac fought old fighters --> barera (at that time about 30), morales (at that time 28, 29, 29), marquez (at that time 31 and 34)...haters even say these boxers were shot as well...at present, pac is 32, how come you pac haters dont consider pac old and shot?

cotto and margarito were considered shot and even old, even tho both are the same age as pac...how is cotto shot with jus one loss before fighting pac? and how is margarito shot for losing to mosley a couple of years ago? these are the two boxers that flom.osapian avoided.

pac is 32 and has been in alot of wars...then how come pac isnt considered shot and old? how come marquez isnt considered old and shot to those people who want to see marquez fight pac? how come the middleweight champ martinez at 36 isnt old? these same people wants to see pac vs martinez, but they all know it will have to be at a catchweight being that martinez is a middleweight and goes into fight nite weighting 170+...if that fight happens and pac beats martinez, then all of a sudden those same pac haters will say martinez was weight drained, old, and shot...HAHAHA, WTF!!!

it's not so much the age,it's what they did prior to facing pac....cotto hadn't looked good anymore,marg was coming off two fights where he didn't look good either,whats great about beating guys like that? taking advantage by weight draining them....thats the problem with those two victories,they werent big ones and to top it off he makes them come down in weight,why ask for a catchweight with cotto when he fights clottey at 147? if you arent even going to fight at the limit for the jr middle title,then just stay at 147,he didn't even fight at the limit of 148-154,that to me isn't legit...and about martinz being 36 and not shot,it's totally different man,or r u that blind? u can be 36,37 but he's never been in tough fights,beat up,in wars,thats why he's still as good as a 29,30 year old....thats why hopkins did what he did too....you can be 30 and shot if u have been in tough fights or 35 and in great shape if you have had easy fights

[Stl_Buay]

let me guess, your pinoy lol I really got you mad.

since when does a person getting knocked down on the canvas determine whether your a winner or not? you nuthuggers really make me laugh. Its pathetic that pacroid couldn't even finish him off after those knockdowns. lmao @ weight drained, really? a pacquiao fan talking about facing weight drained opponents?

I'm African American & Latino so I guess I'll need 2 birth certificates. LOL, doesn't matter the race, I'm partial to fighters not counter punchers or dancers, so I'll admit I'm bias to fighters especially if I'm shelling out $60. Getting knocked down doesn't determine wether you are a winner or not but it sure does break the tie or take away the other guys right to cry foul. Regardless of the score my pride would hurt if I was dropped 4 times to 0. Yes weight drained check how many pounds he put on after the weigh-ins at 130 vs 147... Back then he was packing on 13 to 15 after the weigh-ins. Now it's 2 to 4. Why is he not putting on 13 to 15 now??? Because he is cutting less weight maybe... Just my opinion. Well Cotto fought Pac at 1 pound less than he weighed in against Mosley. and Margarito was a 147 pound champ so I don't think he was drained at 150. De La Hoya called the shots and Pac was at 135 and De La Hoya was at 154 so if they meet in the middle it would have been at 144.5 but they fought at 147 per Oscar request. Clottey was at 147 his weight and Hatton was at 140 his undefeated weight. Manny wasn't the one fighting smaller guys comming up to his weight like Floyd against Hatton at 147 and Marquez at 146 when he never fought above 135. Dismissed NEXT!!!!

[Stl_Buay]

how things change, so now pac was weight drained at 130, before their fight " the new pac is going to kill marquez...."

do you expect every boxer to fight into mannys style and rush him, lol, good day sir

Same response I gave to Cuauhtli02 applies to you.

It doesn't matter what style they fight at this point... Marquez gets KTFO!!! But, I was saying that a counter puncher that never leads has the advantage against a balls out fighter. But now Manny has the skills to attack without going balls out and get the KO through controlled aggression so like I said Marquez ass will hit the canvas 4 more times if they fought again even if he fought as defensively as Macho Camacho and Sweet Pea Whitaker combined.

[shawn12]

Manny has not much choice ion fighters to face.big bad berto was in line. Now he out c-rated fighter. Mostley is the top 4 rank W.W another choice is Bradley RANK 5 after mostly or Marquez who should be first choice now. Because he ranted 5 in p4 p just the old diehard want that fight.as the weight factor and manny vast improvements and this would be the first small fighters manny has face in a very long time .would make it a short fight(marquez get ko'ed)manny under no calling to fight under his bread and butter weight,as manny the draw calls the shots.wonder if the come on over to top rank is included. The prime pay and a fight with manny should be if he comes over to top rank only.but smart money and logic say Marquez turns down this fight.

[shawn12]

Both Marquez and Floyd are in the same boat. Both want to act like they want to fight manny but both know manny is in his prime and on a hot streak. Only way to beat him is to ko.him as no way is any fighter going to hit him hard enough to break manny will and he loses.no way..... And both of these fighters don't have the ko power. But it's in both pride to keep up the act waiting for manny streak to end or start to fall apart,they they will fight manny.

[commandant]

Manny has not much choice ion fighters to face.big bad berto was in line. Now he out c-rated fighter. Mostley is the top 4 rank W.W another choice is Bradley RANK 5 after mostly or Marquez who should be first choice now. Because he ranted 5 in p4 p just the old diehard want that fight.as the weight factor and manny vast improvements and this would be the first small fighters manny has face in a very long time .would make it a short fight(marquez get ko'ed)manny under no calling to fight under his bread and butter weight,as manny the draw calls the shots.wonder if the come on over to top rank is included. The prime pay and a fight with manny should be if he comes over to top rank only.but smart money and logic say Marquez turns down this fight.

how bout a fight with mayweather? All he has to do is agree to the OSDT wit no cut off date. him Saying taking blood before fight will make him weak is just another excuse like saying I'm
afraid of needles lol. Victor ortiz is still out there too but he might be a lil to young for pacROID lol

[shawn12]

how bout a fight with mayweather? All he has to do is agree to the OSDT wit no cut off date. him Saying taking blood before fight will make him weak is just another excuse like saying I'm
afraid of needles lol. Victor ortiz is still out there too but he might be a lil to young for pacROID lol

You still believe that?then why is Floyd asking for a 100 million for his asking price to fight in This year fight that was suppose to happen? It fell apart because of this and Floyd didn't try to denied this. As he allay try's to do.
And mayweather Sr said it's was Roger who put this in Floyd head.
Floyd just started this to get in manny head in the beginning and ran with it as he don't want to fight manny.want to get onto fighting style I could explain why Floyd loses.

[Pullcounter]

Both Marquez and Floyd are in the same boat. Both want to act like they want to fight manny but both know manny is in his prime and on a hot streak. Only way to beat him is to ko.him as no way is any fighter going to hit him hard enough to break manny will and he loses.no way..... And both of these fighters don't have the ko power. But it's in both pride to keep up the act waiting for manny streak to end or start to fall apart,they they will fight manny.

wifebeater wont' fight pac... he'll fight to pay his taxes, then he'll retire again

[shawn12]

Guys. Keep this in mind as we Watch this fight with mosley. Hoppkin as his friend instruction will be to hold manny. to tie manny hands up to hold manny points down.as he fights .and to try to control the fight.manny should fight a more boxer type of a fight like cotto or Oscar taking Mosley apart form the outside. But Mosley will have chance to hold manny on occasion . But that if he can without getting ripped apart while trying to grab.same as .Floyd style is a potshots hight hand lead that leave him cross so if a fighter is close to him he has no choice but to hold or get counter hard.simple mosley can hold. Floyd is likely to win if they fight.mostly can't hold . Floyd loses.