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  • Rocky Rode
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    #21
    God couldn't touch a prime Roy Jones Jr....He was that good

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    • daggum
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      #22
      Originally posted by bose
      calzaghe was willing to fight both guys when they were in there prime, if i recall he was even willing to come to states even before he did, cal gets a bad rap when put up against prime jones and hopkins but it was calzaghe who wanted to face them years earlier than when they aggreed to face calzaghe

      and it sucks if roy needs money, i thought it was all about pride. jones made a lot of money fighting lesser fighters same way berto has

      jones jr. was a badass at one time but people started to find out he didn't want to face the fighters that possed the most risk, thanks to the titles he hid behind some weak rankings, roy could have beat them all, but styles make fights and in boxing you just never know

      hopkins should never have lost to taylor but taylor was a young fighter with a strong attitude like no recent opponet of hopkins but hopkins vindicated himself
      we've gone over this in other threads with many articles to back it up but calzaghe said himself he was scared of flying to the usa for fights but then at the same time he was seen flying to go on holiday so that was a bullshi-t lie. his own promoter says calzaghe never wanted hard fights and only wanted to be matched soft. warren had to beg and plead for calzaghe to even fight lacy in his home country.

      calzaghe refused to face glen johnson and came up with su****ious injuries every time the fight was signed. you think he's gonna want to face jones or hopkins? it doesn't add up with all the evidence we have. it's pretty clear he didn't want any of these tough fights until they were super over the hill.
      Last edited by daggum; 04-27-2011, 10:53 PM.

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      • THE REED
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        #23
        Originally posted by ...lucy...
        Really? So an old Jones reflexes havent changed at all?
        Its pretty much common knowledge not to take him seriously.

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        • bose
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          #24
          Originally posted by daggum
          we've gone over this in other threads with many articles to back it up but calzaghe said himself he was scared of flying to the usa for fights but then at the same time he was seen flying to go on holiday so that was a bullshi-t lie. his own promoter says calzaghe never wanted hard fights and only wanted to be matched soft. warren had to beg and plead for calzaghe to even fight lacy in his home country. it's pretty clear he didn't want any of these tough fights until they were super over the hill.

          sounds good. but i recall when all this call out was happening.

          explain why roy never fought collins when went up to him after one of roys fight?

          roy could have been one of the greatest but just like his dad pertected him early one, roy later protected himself, how ironic its this protection the reason roy left his dad in the first place

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            #25
            Originally posted by bose
            sounds good. but i recall when all this call out was happening.

            explain why roy never fought collins when went up to him after one of roys fight?

            roy could have been one of the greatest but just like his dad pertected him early one, roy later protected himself, how ironic its this protection the reason roy left his dad in the first place
            calling out doesn't necessarily mean you want to fight someone. look at floyd-pac situation. it's also used as a way to promote yourself. calzaghe was never serious about fighting jones or hopkins in the usa that is clear from his remarks, resume, and actions. collins probably was serious since he fought a lot of tough fighters throughout his career but i would have to look into the details and see. did his promoter ever offer roy jones a fight?
            Last edited by daggum; 04-27-2011, 11:15 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by jermainerambo
              How good was the so-called prime Jones jr could he have lasted 12 rounds with the prime legendary G.O.A.T joe calzaghe without getting battered and humiliated.Was he good enough to have taken the 0 from J0E?........or dared to try
              I have big brown stains in my underwear that are more interesting then Calzaghe's career.

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                #27
                Originally posted by bose
                calzaghe was willing to fight both guys when they were in there prime, if i recall he was even willing to come to states even before he did, cal gets a bad rap when put up against prime jones and hopkins but it was calzaghe who wanted to face them years earlier than when they aggreed to face calzaghe

                and it sucks if roy needs money, i thought it was all about pride. jones made a lot of money fighting lesser fighters same way berto has

                jones jr. was a badass at one time but people started to find out he didn't want to face the fighters that possed the most risk, thanks to the titles he hid behind some weak rankings, roy could have beat them all, but styles make fights and in boxing you just never know

                hopkins should never have lost to taylor but taylor was a young fighter with a strong attitude like no recent opponet of hopkins but hopkins vindicated himself
                Thats a two way street-_- I mean if he wanted to fight he shoulda came over and got known and then fought them.
                Plus people say he didn't he says he did.

                That logic was as good as when Floyd said he wanted to fight casomyor but didn't it's the same for Joe just did it Ultra late.

                And joes record is a bad as jones they beat good people but both beat alot of bums as did Hopkins.

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                  #28

                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                  Its sad how someone as talented as 'Jones will be remembered for the following

                  1. Fighting Civil servants during his prime
                  2. Having the worst Chin in the history of boxing
                  3. Losing disgracefully every time he fought someone above C level
                  4. Being a steroid cheater

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    He was good enough to make a prime James Toney look like a journeyman.

                    /thread.
                    Thats a wrap, folks.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by paulf
                      Thats a wrap, folks.
                      Second that. Roy wAs a freak of nature in his prime

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