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  • AllEyesOpen
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    #1

    Since when did being a fan of a certain fighter mean

    you have to **** on anyone mentioned in the same sentance, or as a possible opponent, or just considered to have a better resume.

    Simple question, I honestly just don't get it. A fighter can be great, but does that mean he has to be the greatest of all time, with the greatest resume of all time and no one could ever compete against them in any way.
  • THE REED
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    #2
    You've been on NSB for 5 years... is this JUST NOW getting your attention?

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    • AllEyesOpen
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      #3
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      You've been on NSB for 5 years... is this JUST NOW getting your attention?
      well to be honest, yes, but it's been getting out of hand lately.

      I guess i'm the only one who believe regardless of who your favorite fighter is, you gotta give credit where credit is due.

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      • THE REED
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        #4
        You're certainly not the only one.

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        • -MAKAVELLI-
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          Victor Ortiz...GOAT

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          • Saddlebred
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            #6
            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
            you have to **** on anyone mentioned in the same sentance, or as a possible opponent, or just considered to have a better resume.

            Simple question, I honestly just don't get it. A fighter can be great, but does that mean he has to be the greatest of all time, with the greatest resume of all time and no one could ever compete against them in any way.
            My opinion on this is that it has to do with certain cultural differences between newly evolving fanbases. There have been slews of successful Mexican, American, Puerto Rican, European fighters, White, Black, etc...When it comes to Manny Pacquiao the majority of his fans have only started watching boxing because of Manny Pacquiao, boxing ends and begins with Manny Pacquiao. Him being the only fighter they have ever followed and their new enthusiasm and exposure to a sport drives them to want him to be the greatest fighter of all time. Him being their favorite (and in many cases) only fighter, they don't watch boxing as a sport. They watch Manny Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao has to be better than everyone else because he is the only fighter they have ever watched/followed.

            These same parallels don't apply to other nations with much larger histories of world class fighters. Anyone who thinks a certain fighter has an edge over Pacquiao has to be labelled as following that only one fighter. They use this personification of anyone who supports any other fighter as a way to justify the fact that they only really care about one fighter. The "*****s" are really a mythical creation of the "*******s." Are there a few overly enthusiastic Floyd homers out there? Of course, you see it with other boxers too. However the Pacquiao fanbase largely only follow one fighter. Boxing begins and ends with Pacquiao as the GOAT and anybody who disagrees or has differing opinions has to be labelled in some context similar to the "*******" moniker that has been applied to them.

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            • Khalid X
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              #7
              Originally posted by Saddlebred
              My opinion on this is that it has to do with certain cultural differences between newly evolving fanbases. There have been slews of successful Mexican, American, Puerto Rican, European fighters, White, Black, etc...When it comes to Manny Pacquiao the majority of his fans have only started watching boxing because of Manny Pacquiao, boxing ends and begins with Manny Pacquiao. Him being the only fighter they have ever followed and their new enthusiasm and exposure to a sport drives them to want him to be the greatest fighter of all time. Him being their favorite (and in many cases) only fighter, they don't watch boxing as a sport. They watch Manny Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao has to be better than everyone else because he is the only fighter they have ever watched/followed.

              These same parallels don't apply to other nations with much larger histories of world class fighters. Anyone who thinks a certain fighter has an edge over Pacquiao has to be labelled as following that only one fighter. They use this personification of anyone who supports any other fighter as a way to justify the fact that they only really care about one fighter. The "*****s" are really a mythical creation of the "*******s." Are there a few overly enthusiastic Floyd homers out there? Of course, you see it with other boxers too. However the Pacquiao fanbase largely only follow one fighter. Boxing begins and ends with Pacquiao as the GOAT and anybody who disagrees or has differing opinions has to be labelled in some context similar to the "*******" moniker that has been applied to them.
              Why do people think Pacquiao fans only started watching boxing after he came onto the scene.

              I love the ignorant line of thinking in your post.

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              • wazaa.
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                #8
                I wasn't ****ting on Bradley !! He is a great fighter.

                I was just saying that his resume ain't all that much better than Amir's.

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                • Saddlebred
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                  Why do people think Pacquiao fans only started watching boxing after he came onto the scene.

                  I love the ignorant line of thinking in your post.
                  I didn't say all, but the vast majority did! Not even after he "came on the scene." The vast majority only started following him post ODLH!!!
                  Take a gander at Google Trends and come back and tell me I'm wrong.



                  That is the epitome of bandwagoning.
                  Last edited by Saddlebred; 04-26-2011, 01:31 PM.

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                  • » HE3R0 «
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                    #10
                    Almost like in politics when it involves a popular figure.

                    Most of the focus will go onto the people that are for or against a certain politician.

                    There will be of course varying degrees of agreement amongst members of each side. However, most times the loudest and gets the most attention can also be the extremists of the bunch. In our case (NSB), our extremists are the trolls. And we've seen them from both sides.

                    "________ KOs SRR in the first round!"

                    "WRONG! _________ is only slightly better than steaming shi.t. SLIGHTLY."

                    The people that are drowned out are the ones open to debating. However over the years, the barrage of trolls have turned some moderates of each side into unwavering elitists. These types are almost worse than trolls because while trolls know they are ****** and can be easily ignored, elitists on the other hand have a slicker style. They pretend they are open to debate but are not, and talk with a tone that they shouldn't be questioned because they've done the "research".

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