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  • LeadUppercut
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    #171
    Originally posted by Young Money
    Ortiz is shook over Maidana.

    He will get his chance to fight him when Maidana moves to 147.

    Why is it now that Ortiz says Maidana is not on his level?

    Maidana beat Ortiz, is Victor ****** or something?
    Did you watch that fight ?

    Ortiz beat Ortiz.

    Maidana was just a bystander who fell over a few times

    In a rematch, chino had better not let Vic touch him up like he did in the first fight, because he cannot rely on Ortiz making the same mistakes.

    The new Ortiz puts him away this time, like he very nearly did first time out.

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    • Young Money
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      #172
      Originally posted by LeadUppercut
      Did you watch that fight ?

      Ortiz beat Ortiz.

      Maidana was just a bystander who fell over a few times

      In a rematch, chino had better not let Vic touch him up like he did in the first fight, because he cannot rely on Ortiz making the same mistakes.

      The new Ortiz puts him away this time, like he very nearly did first time out.
      If Victor truly believed that he lost the fight himself then he wouldn't be calling out Maidana's name every chance he gets.

      Maidana has his number.

      Imagine if Vic fought Maidana the same way he did against Berto.

      He would fold, make excuses and have to think about his future.

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      • BallisticAffair
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        #173
        He's got a point. Yes, Ortiz just won a WW strap. But Vic hasn't left Maidana so far behind, and Maidana hasn't stumbled so badly in the last 2 years, that he's unworthy of a rematch at this point.


        If Ortiz has bigger options, fine. But he hasn't completely shaken that spectre off just yet.

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          #174
          Originally posted by LeadUppercut
          Ortiz called him out for months, and mentioned Maidana during every interview.

          There were at least 2-3 interviews on boxingscene, as well as elsewhere.

          I thought you were speaking about something new...I have seen that interview many times.

          Calling people out really doesn't mean much. It sure doesn't mean Maidana ducked him (really can't believe you are going there)..

          Anyway, you have been going a bit overboard with your support for Ortiz as of late. If he loses a couple more times (even a Maidana rematch), it will be interesting to see if it last...

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            #175
            Originally posted by HandSpeed303
            I thought you were speaking about something new...I have seen that interview many times.

            Calling people out really doesn't mean much. It sure doesn't mean Maidana ducked him (really can't believe you are going there)..

            Anyway, you have been going a bit overboard with your support for Ortiz as of late. If he loses a couple more times (even a Maidana rematch), it will be interesting to see if it last...
            bandwagon fans.

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              #176
              Originally posted by Young Money
              If Victor truly believed that he lost the fight himself then he wouldn't be calling out Maidana's name every chance he gets.

              Maidana has his number.

              Imagine if Vic fought Maidana the same way he did against Berto.

              He would fold, make excuses and have to think about his future.
              Don't be ridiculous.

              That is WHY he wanted a rematch, because he knows he blew that fight.

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #177
                Originally posted by BallisticAffair
                He's got a point. Yes, Ortiz just won a WW strap. But Vic hasn't left Maidana so far behind, and Maidana hasn't stumbled so badly in the last 2 years, that he's unworthy of a rematch at this point.

                If Ortiz has bigger options, fine. But he hasn't completely shaken that spectre off just yet.
                Agree, a rematch would be great.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by HandSpeed303
                  I thought you were speaking about something new...I have seen that interview many times.

                  Calling people out really doesn't mean much. It sure doesn't mean Maidana ducked him (really can't believe you are going there)..

                  Anyway, you have been going a bit overboard with your support for Ortiz as of late. If he loses a couple more times (even a Maidana rematch), it will be interesting to see if it last...
                  What do you mean " Calling people out really doesn't mean much " ?

                  In that case, chino's #1 daddy pic, doesn't mean a hell of a lot either

                  Anyone who thinks that Ortiz did not request a Maidana rematch on numerous occasions, simply hasn't been watching.....

                  " Ortiz again called out Marcos Rene Maidana after the fight. It seems he wants to redeem himself.

                  Maidana appears to be facing Amir Khan in his next fight. If he gets through Khan, a fight with Ortiz could happen.

                  Even if Maidana loses his next fight Ortiz is going to want him. With the destruction tonight, Ortiz has thrust himself back into title talk. He will probably get the chance now.

                  Most of the champions are busy but a fight with Maidana could be made for the middle of 2011. It would be nice to see Ortiz take on a better opponent. In the meantime I wouldn’t hold my breath.

                  Like stated earlier this was a fun exciting fight to watch but don’t read to much into it. He beat up a washed-up fighter like he was supposed to.

                  If he does get a rematch with Maidana I would put my money on Ortiz.

                  He may have faced iffy opponents since that loss but he has found his boxing skills and Maidana is the same fighter.

                  He wouldn’t get into a firefight again and would most likely box off Maidana’s ears.
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                  Victor Ortiz wasn’t fighting the best opponent but he looked vicious once again against Vivian Harris. Ortiz scored four knockdowns in the fight. HE ended matters in the third round with a brutal right hook...

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Body Movin'
                    bandwagon fans.
                    I have been an Ortiz fan since well-before the Maidana debacle dude.

                    If I stopped supporting him after that loss, would that not make me a "fair-weather fan"?

                    I think that you are just a band-wagon chino fan, and after the rematch you will say that chino got exposed and was never that good to begin with

                    Whereas, I will still be supporting chino.

                    See the diff ?

                    In a rematch..... if Maidana gets touched up the same way he did in the first fight, then he gets stopped imho, by a much better, smarter, Ortiz.

                    That is called an opinion dude, deal with it.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #180
                      You guys all seem to see Ortiz, and Maidana to a certain extent, as a finished product, whereas I see both as a work-in-progress.

                      In a rematch, chino had better not let Vic touch him up like he did in the first fight, because he cannot rely on Ortiz making the same mistakes.

                      The new Ortiz puts him away this time.

                      Why ?

                      Because Ortiz will never quit, and Maidana will not stop him.

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