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  • D4thincarnation
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    #51
    Originally posted by damned1974
    Can you back this claim up? You do realise that he has picked Pac to beat other fighters,don't you?

    Dwyer's objective is to make money for people betting on fights...if there is a possibility that one fighter can win who is an underdog,isn't it worth it to place some cash on that,so you do not miss out on an opportunity? More often than not,he makes people money with his suggestions,while the rest of Boxingscene just looks at fan favourites or what is in front of them,Dwyer looks for subtle things and picks apart habits and styles (sometimes he may be looking too deep into things)...his opinion is worth (literally) far more than most of the boxingscene bludgers here.


    He gets far too much wrong and has called Pacquiao fights wrong time and time again, make the same arguments gets proved wrong but still comes back with the same tired arguments.

    The guy cannot learn from his mistakes.

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    • damned1974
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      #52
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      Floyd vs Oscar SD
      Manny vs Marquez SD

      I guess Oscar was not a left over if Marquez is not.

      Hatton ten round for Floyd at a weight not comfortable for Hatton, Manny blasted him out in 2 at Hatton's favoured weight.


      Yes ridiculous demands like make you come in on the agreed limit, I guess he wouldn't have to make these demands if Floyd was a man of his word, but as the Marquez fight showed he cannot be trusted.

      And the Olympics never sanctioned any drug tested for this fight, so stop making up stories.
      You do realise that Manny hasn't made weight before,eh? He got ktfo as well in that same fight...it's no wonder Manny knows the importance of taking a few pounds off of some of his opponents that may have a little more left in the tank than he prefers....

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        #53
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        He gets far too much wrong and has called Pacquiao fights wrong time and time again, make the same arguments gets proved wrong but still comes back with the same tired arguments.

        The guy cannot learn from his mistakes.
        I think you will find the way he structures the bets will show that he never says that Manny will lose indefinitely.He points out flaws in Manny that opponents should be able to capitalize on based on the way they fight....if you structure your bet as he suggests,you will rarely lose.If you can make us more money than him,I am open to your suggestions....

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          #54
          Originally posted by TrickyTrickster
          How exactly is Oscar fight the same as Marquez?
          Oscar was a weight drained zombie, if your gonna bring in weights then why not mention Mannys ridiculous catchweight and overnight weight stipulation aswell?

          The Hatton who fought Manny wasnt a shell of the Hatton Pac fought,
          Hatton openly admitted he struggled to make 140 before the Mayweather fight,
          He nearly got knocked out by Juan Lazcano in his comeback after the Mayweather fight. The man was totally shot....

          Add on top Mayweather sr, trying to change his style he was completely out of his comfort zone. Thats a ridiculous comparison.


          err.... SD and SD, I thought I made that clear. At least when Pacquiao and Oscar agreed on a weight Pacquiao stuck to it instead of welching on it like Floyd. Marquez only had to jump 3 weight in a year to fight Floyd.

          Do you remember Hatton vs Collazo, much more on shaky ground then Lazcano. Was that before the Floyd fight? Hmmm..... what was that Hatton was saying after that fight, he wasn't suited to 147lbs. I guess that was the green light for Floyd.

          But even then Floyd needed 6 round of spoiling and Cortez to make Hatton lose the plot.

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          • not-a-homo
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            #55
            dwyer is an idiot

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            • Horvo
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              #56
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              He did make some very good points based on facts and the past history of the fighters.....pretty objective, I might go watch the Bernstein vid to compare.
              This is what I think.

              I actually like his analysis a lot with other fighters, but he's got a bug up his ass with Pacquiao. He always cites the Hatton fight as an example of how to beat Pac. Of how Hatton was winning that fight and causing Pac problems.

              Also, just recently he went on about how McCloskey would have KO'd Khan if the fight had continued. That it was a Roach trained fighter against a Philly Roll Mayweather type fighter so he had to try to explain how his prediction would have come true.

              I think he sometimes wants a certain result and then tries to give an analysis that supports that. That's being a fan, not an expert.

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                #57
                Originally posted by not-a-homo
                dwyer is an idiot
                ????!!!! Says the guy with a gay avatar....

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                • RichCCFC
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                  #58
                  I'm kidding... He makes good points but the sooner people realize Floyd is not Marquez the better.

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                  • TrickyTrickster
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RichCCFC
                    I'm kidding... He makes good points but the sooner people realize Floyd is not Marquez the better.
                    Yeah you're right he's 10 times better.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Horvo
                      This is what I think.

                      I actually like his analysis a lot with other fighters, but he's got a bug up his ass with Pacquiao. He always cites the Hatton fight as an example of how to beat Pac. Of how Hatton was winning that fight and causing Pac problems.

                      Also, just recently he went on about how McCloskey would have KO'd Khan if the fight had continued. That it was a Roach trained fighter against a Philly Roll Mayweather type fighter so he had to try to explain how his prediction would have come true.

                      I think he sometimes wants a certain result and then tries to give an analysis that supports that. That's being a fan, not an expert.
                      Actually,he has said Hatton was doing well in certain moments in the 2nd round until the KO....

                      Never recall him saying McClosky would spark out Khan if the fight continued,but we will never know anyways since it got stopped on a scratch,or "cut".Admittedly,I thought McClosky was starting to do more in the last few rounds and early in the fight he caught Khan with a great right. Anything can happen I suppose....

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