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  • Fox McCloud
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    In terms of successful fighters, it is usually a guy who fights in his default style very well, but... when it isn't working, he doesn't adjust, and just gets run over trying to fight that one way. There is not a better example in the sport than this guy:



    I'll let you guess which one I'm talking about.

    However, there are definitely two types of one-dimensional fighters too. There are the one who can't fight in another style, such as Edison Miranda. He is a strong fighter, without a lot of technical skill. He just comes forward looking to hurt you, and when that doesn't work, he doesn't get good results. Then there are the ones who won't fight in another style, IE Kelly Pavlik. I think Pavlik could either counterpunch or be an overly aggressive come forward fighter who looks to apply really intense pressure, as he has power, but... he only leads with his hard jab and tries to set up the right hand, even when it is not working.

    An example of one fighter showing that he was not one-dimensional: Cristian Mijares in his knockout loss to Darchinyan. He was getting wrecked trying to box and be cute from the outside, so he was coming forward in later rounds, which ultimately ended up with him being on the canvas watching the referee wave his arms signifying the stoppage, but he definitely showed that he was not one-dimensional in that fight.

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    • cixthree
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      #12
      Originally posted by BoxingFreak32
      Always hearin ppl say tgat what is that mean exactly???and whose the most "one-dimensional fighters"?
      It's a fighter who does not adjust in a fight, I'll give you 2 examples.
      1. Manny never figured out how to get out of the way of JMMs straight right, he just fought thru it but never adjusted to it.
      2. Manny when he kept getting caught by Clotteys uppercut, he never adjusted he just threw more punches.

      It's all about adjusting, if you keep getting caught with the same punch, you're either low in basic boxing skills/smarts or ONE DIMENTIONAL.

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        #13
        Originally posted by cixthree
        It's a fighter who does not adjust in a fight, I'll give you 2 examples.
        1. Manny never figured out how to get out of the way of JMMs straight right, he just fought thru it but never adjusted to it.
        2. Manny when he kept getting caught by Clotteys uppercut, he never adjusted he just threw more punches.

        It's all about adjusting, if you keep getting caught with the same punch, you're either low in basic boxing skills/smarts or ONE DIMENTIONAL.
        And Marquez in the first Pacquiao fight shows a perfect example of not being one-dimensional, and avoiding the straight left hand.

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          If you beat Oscar Dela Hoya into submission and knock Ricky Hatton out cold, you're a one dimensional fighter.

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            #15
            Andre Dirrell is a great example of a one dimensional fighter all he can do is run and jab

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            • Manboyeatme
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              #16
              Originally posted by cixthree
              It's a fighter who does not adjust in a fight, I'll give you 2 examples.
              1. Manny never figured out how to get out of the way of JMMs straight right, he just fought thru it but never adjusted to it.
              2. Manny when he kept getting caught by Clotteys uppercut, he never adjusted he just threw more punches.

              It's all about adjusting, if you keep getting caught with the same punch, you're either low in basic boxing skills/smarts or ONE DIMENTIONAL.
              Thats called an adjustment.

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                #17
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                In terms of successful fighters, it is usually a guy who fights in his default style very well, but... when it isn't working, he doesn't adjust, and just gets run over trying to fight that one way. There is not a better example in the sport than this guy:



                I'll let you guess which one I'm talking about.

                However, there are definitely two types of one-dimensional fighters too. There are the one who can't fight in another style, such as Edison Miranda. He is a strong fighter, without a lot of technical skill. He just comes forward looking to hurt you, and when that doesn't work, he doesn't get good results. Then there are the ones who won't fight in another style, IE Kelly Pavlik. I think Pavlik could either counterpunch or be an overly aggressive come forward fighter who looks to apply really intense pressure, as he has power, but... he only leads with his hard jab and tries to set up the right hand, even when it is not working.

                An example of one fighter showing that he was not one-dimensional: Cristian Mijares in his knockout loss to Darchinyan. He was getting wrecked trying to box and be cute from the outside, so he was coming forward in later rounds, which ultimately ended up with him being on the canvas watching the referee wave his arms signifying the stoppage, but he definitely showed that he was not one-dimensional in that fight.
                you gotta be talking about about alexander ... cause that guy cant seem to make one adjustment no matter whats happening. bradley showed some dimensions in the peterson fight. he went from going toe to toe in a very even fight to fighting on the outside using his feet and clearly outboxing him.

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                • -EX-
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                  #18
                  Kelly Pavlik is a prime example...

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                    my definition of a 1 dimensional fighter would be arthur abraham ...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -Boxzilla-
                      you gotta be talking about about alexander ... cause that guy cant seem to make one adjustment no matter whats happening. bradley showed some dimensions in the peterson fight. he went from going toe to toe in a very even fight to fighting on the outside using his feet and clearly outboxing him.
                      Definitely Alexander. It showed up in a big way in the Kotelnik fight. The 1-2 isn't working... **** it, more 1-2's, and a lot of praying that it does work. I'm sure he thanks god for the judges bailing him out with that decision that raised quite a few eyebrows.

                      Same thing with Bradley, except it wasn't in St. Louis, and Tim wasn't an opponent who was picked as a stepping stone to a bigger fight. The 1-2 got figured out pretty quickly by Bradley for the most part, and the greater accuracy and activity won the day for him by a pretty comfortable margin.

                      Originally posted by -EX-
                      Kelly Pavlik is a prime example...
                      You know, I kind of regret using Pavlik as my example... I don't think Pavlik is AS one-dimensional as I thought he was, in the way that he just won't switch it up, even though he can.

                      He definitely made adjustments to catch Martinez coming in with the jab during the middle rounds of the fight, when Pavlik was winning rounds and made a lot of people wonder if he had figured the Martinez game plan out and was going to win a decision based on it.

                      Originally posted by -Boxzilla-
                      my definition of a 1 dimensional fighter would be arthur abraham ...
                      This is a much better example. Abraham has an iron chin, as he has been down only once in his career when he was backpedaling hard and extremely off balance, and I've never even seen the guy stunned from a punch. He also might be the hardest puncher in the sport... his power made it look like he broke Koren Gevor's neck in the KO from that fight (seriously, watch it if you have never seen it, it's totally worth it, and you will cringe and say some sort of expletive... guaranteed):


                      Given his iron chin and crushing power, you'd think that he would be able to throw caution to the wind and push forward relentlessly with intent to land something big. Instead, he always waits behind the Winky Wright trying to find the opportunity counterpunch a knockout blow, even after it is quite evident that his opponent is not going to leave himself open for it, and that strategy will end up being an unsuccessful one that will put another L on Abraham's record.

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