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Originally posted by BoZz View Postthey won't fight anyone legit and why should they?
when pac was in the lower divison he use to get a beating in every fight so moving up in weight and fighting weight drained damaged goods it's easier and the payment comes in easy too..no need to war but lot's of people don't get that and they don't understand what's going on.
they're happy with him fighting fighters floyd has already beat and they love to see him go to talk shows and watch and listen to him singing..I mean if you heard that dude sing then you know what I mean..you must be brain impaired or deaf if you think he's got any talent for music.
they always know when the opponent is gonna go down because they fight rubbish fighters..and that's what his fans call BOXING lol
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Originally posted by SekondzOut View Postthats around the same time I expect Shane to start breaking as well...breaking Manny's ribs and jaw
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Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View PostManny Pacquiao’s conditioning coach, Alex Ariza, expects Shane Mosley to begin breaking down by the fifth round of the upcoming fight which is scheduled for May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. He feels Pacquiao will begin to overwhelm Mosley with speed and power by the midway point. Ariza saw the same thing happen in Mosley loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. in May or 2010. Mosley was very dangerous in the early rounds but then his stamina broke down after six rounds.
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Originally posted by trainhard_187 View PostSo Floyd fighting two division smaller Marquez and Light Welterweight Hatton is better... GTFOH... Quit complaining.. Mayweather is on vacation so Mosley is the only big name WW fighter... When Mayweather grows some balls then we fight fans will get the fight we want to see..
Til then quit complaining and be glad the P4P king continues to fight and not take vacations or layoffs..
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Originally posted by Mil Mascaras View PostTwo words for you...
Cotto
Margarito
Here are the facts regarding the Margarito vs Pacquiao fight.....
* that fight was for a vacant JMW title
* neither of the competitor's were a JMW
* that fight was held at catchweight
* one of the competitors could not even have beaten any of the top welter's
* neither of the competitors could have beaten any of the top JMW's
Margarito was a slow, plodding, faded, shop-worn, mediocre, welterweight, BUM, with no KO power, who could not have even beaten any of the top welterweight's, and who had just been KTFO by ol man Mosley.
Cotto.....
When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.
Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.
Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.
Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....
"I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.
But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.
Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker."
Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for Manny..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.
A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame.
Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, Pac demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.
But even that was not enough for Manny, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865
Catch-weights.....
There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight
2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage
Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.
The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.
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Originally posted by serv View PostWanna bet on that?
That isn't going to happen, my 100M to your 5oM
another 50M to your 50M Pac stops Mosley
I'll do 25 mill on the stoppage though...we can negoiate through the PM if you want....its kinda lame to go through THESE motions in this type of thread...like I said, I'm all for the bet on the stoppage...25mill is what I can bet on that
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Pacquiao by stoppage by 5th, Mosley is dangerous until the 4th but then Manny will be too strong..
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