Ariza says high altitude training is counterproductive?

[Kagami Taiga]

thats just not true. training at high altitudes is very proven. it essentially has the same effect as epo. it definitely increases ur stamina especially more so at lower altitudes. ive known so many athletes that do it, it would be really against science to say its counter productive

[BrooklynBomber]

I have to partially agree with Ariza, you should train in high altitudes if you were born and lived/live your whole life in high altitudes. Moreover the high altitude training reasoning is copied from these african distance runners who always win all the olympic marathon competitions. However boxing in its nature is quite different from distance running as it relies much more on explosiveness then steady effort and high altitude training will hurt your red tissue of muscles first(it always goes first when you are in a continual stress environment) which is a primary engine for explosiveness. It will usually mean that the fighter will not stop being explosive(if he was before) but it will be much harder for him to be explosive in continual fashion.

[Monte Fisto]

Whether you're pro-high altitude training or not a firm believer of it, it's all based on theory and research, none of it is fact !!

However, what Ariza is saying is convincing. I've often wondered how much of it benefits fighters(combat sports in general). His theory or whatever studies he has read makes sense. Unless an athlete actually lived in a high-altitude area for a long time. But, training for a boxing match for a month and a half or 2 and then coming back down to sea level for the actual fight, i just don't see how much of the HAT can really improve your stamina with that short amount of time.

Training at a HA for 1-3 months, compared to those African runners, who have lived in that environment all their lives are totally different.

[Seleção No. 13]

Ugh, they were just training in the mountains of Baguio City, Philippines just a few weeks ago, which is 5,000 feet in the air.

edit: Posted this too soon. It seems like what he's trying to say is that Mosley should've stopped high altitude training halfway through his camp like what Team Pac did when they returned to Wild Card. Big Bear is also 1800 more feet in elevation.

[Pony Boy]

I think Ariza is an excellent conditioning coach but professional boxers have been training in high altitudes for years and all of a sudden it's not good. I think this was just to get into Mosley's head.

[Chew BackAtacha]

Big Bear is about 7,000 feet above sea level, and you live there and you train there. Now I believe that's bad for a boxer. It's okay for a triathlete or a marathoner or a cyclist because they don't need power or muscle strength like a boxer does or a sprinter or a football player. They don't need to be as explosive as a boxer," said Conte.

"Sleeping at altitude accelerates the heart rate, and burns more calories and can cause a boxer to go into a catabolic state, which is the opposite of an anabolic state -- meaning that you lose muscle mass and strength," said Conte. "What their doing is living high and training high, and Nonito is living low and training high. So when he sleeps, he's sleeping at sea level, which allows him a more deep and restful sleep and be in an anabolic state accelerates healing and muscle tissue repair.

^^^victor conte

btw, i recommend ZMA-5 (Zinc Magnesium Aspartate): Victor's sleep drug if you have sleeping problems. Or just eat ****loads or avacodos.