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Is there anybody can beat Pac at the same day weigh-in fight today at 147?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    No lol, Pac would have been at WW like 5 years ago. Hatton would have never been able to fight at 140. Meaning he would have fought at a more natural weight. Which would have eliminated his strength and thus maybe not be as good as he was. And, that holds true for Morales, Barrera, JMM, and even Pac.

    With same day weigh-in from the start. A lot of start in boxing would have been different.
    Why not? Pac started pro boxing way below that his record stated 106. He cheated his age as 18 year old when he was actually 15 going to 16 and has to put metals in his pocket to make weight. That fact that he beat all his first 11 opponents with ease possibly he could hang those who might ever a champ at minimum weight, light flyweight and flyweight. He most probably fought Sasakul at 115, 118 or 122, Ledwaba at 126 or 130, Barrera at 130 or 135, Morales at 135 or 140, Diaz at 147, Hatton at 154 and so on but the point will be the same. Most problably they still fought the same opponent as they did not too far away from each other weight fight night maybe except a few along the way.
    Last edited by whirlwind; 04-22-2011, 10:51 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by whirlwind View Post
      Why not? Pac started pro boxing way below that his record stated 106. He cheated his age as 18 year old when he was actually 15 going to 16 and has to put metals in his pocket to make weight. That fact that he beat all his first 11 opponents with ease possibly he could hang those who might a champ at minimum weight, light flyweight and flyweight. He most probably fought Sasakul at 115, 118 or 122, Ledwaba at 126 and so on but the point will be the same. Pac would still beat them and their opponent who made them great.
      But, if it's same day weigh-in who's to say Sasakul and Ledwaba would be in the same weight-class as Pac. And, if it's same day weigh-in who's to say that Sasakul or Ledwaba would be top fighter in their more natural weight-class?

      You're acting as if there was same day weigh-in that everything would have still played out the same. Which it would, same day weigh-in would change a lot of stuff.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        But, if it's same day weigh-in who's to say Sasakul and Ledwaba would be in the same weight-class as Pac. And, if it's same day weigh-in who's to say that Sasakul or Ledwaba would be top fighter in their more natural weight-class?

        You're acting as if there was same day weigh-in that everything would have still played out the same. Which it would, same day weigh-in would change a lot of stuff.
        That's why I said most probably but if you look at these elite welterweights like Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito for example. They most probably the same fighters/champ around this current weight class 154 or 160. on the same day weight in fight and 147 Pac could still beat them IMO.
        Last edited by whirlwind; 04-22-2011, 11:10 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by whirlwind View Post
          That's why I said most probably but if you look at these elite welterweights like Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito for example. They most probably the same fighters/champ who fought at 154 or 160 on the same day weight in fight and 147 Pac could still beat them IMO.
          Not necessary man. Marg advantages was his size and strength. That is what made him dangerous. But, if he would be fighting same day weigh-in throughout his career he probably wouldn't have had the success throughout his career fighting guys his size. Because, he's advantages would be gone.

          Then you have to think about this. Even if they were. Would Pac even fight them? I doubt it. Because, it's not about the same day weigh-in. If it was then why the **** ask for catch-weight?

          Do you get what I'm saying?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            Not necessary man. Marg advantages was his size and strength. That is what made him dangerous. But, if he would be fighting same day weigh-in throughout his career he probably wouldn't have had the success throughout his career fighting guys his size. Because, he's advantages would be gone.

            Then you have to think about this. Even if they were. Would Pac even fight them? I doubt it. Because, it's not about the same day weigh-in. If it was then why the **** ask for catch-weight?

            Do you get what I'm saying?
            I don't have any links of what they actually weighed in during fight night but according to some posters here, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey and Margarito, etc.. when they fought to each other they weighed in more or less a few lbs the same. You just like saying if Marg and Cotto fought at the same weigh in day in which most probably at middleweight, Marg would lose to Cotto because of his size and his strength would not exist. It doesn't make sense at all.
            Last edited by boxer.exposed; 04-22-2011, 11:30 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by boxer.exposed View Post
              I don't have any links of what they actually weighed in during fight night but according to some posters here, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey and Margarito, etc.. when they fought to each other they weighed in more or less a few lbs the same. You just like saying if Marg and Cotto fought at the same weigh in day in which most probably at middleweight, Marg would lose to Cotto. It doesn't make sense at.
              That doesn't make sense. I never said that.

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