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[hectari]

Lamar Parks was my favorite fighter for a couple years and I was heartbroken when he came down with HIV, I was a little bit scared when I saw that he was going to face Gerald in his next fight and it is amazing in a horrible way what happened to both men before they were to square off...

Who would you have taken between PArks and Hopkins at that time when both men were in the top ten in the middleweight division?

Ya it is trully sad what happend, I heard lamar had a sex addiction as well. But imagine if they fought I would have to put my money on gerald. Gerald looks like a lighter skin version of hopkins are they related?

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Wow you had the BLUEPRINT to beat Roy Jones JR before any of these guys! How come you guys never fought? imagine if you fought you would have stopped the great roy jones jr before he became anything. In that gif you clearly exposed him he was getting hit with some clean shots.

Iceman will be the first to tell you, fighting someone and sparring someone are two totally different things. Often times RJJ would fight more close-quartered and get hit more in order to prep himself for fights.

Getting hit clean in sparring by a very good fighter who is bigger than you does not make you "exposed".

[Kid Achilles]

Ice Man John deserves all the credit in the world for being able to spar with RJJ on such even terms but his intent I'm sure was not to "expose" RJJ or anything like that. It's just sparring, and only a snippet of one session at that. Do you really think in every session, against world class sparring partners, RJJ never broke a sweat? Everyone struggles in sparring and gets hit. It's a time to experiment and expand your paramaters as a fighter. RJJ was probably working on sharpening up on the inside, a game where John was superior. The result was that John had the upper hand for a while.

In an actual match with repuation on the line Jones would have kept at a distance distance and likely (no offense to John who was very very good in his own right) did his thing and won.

Still it's way cool to see you landing some good leather on Jones. No one else on this forum can say they did the same with a prime all time great.

[hectari]

Ice Man John deserves all the credit in the world for being able to spar with RJJ on such even terms but his intent I'm sure was not to "expose" RJJ or anything like that. It's just sparring, and only a snippet of one session at that. Do you really think in every session, against world class sparring partners, RJJ never broke a sweat? Everyone struggles in sparring and gets hit. It's a time to experiment and expand your paramaters as a fighter. RJJ was probably working on sharpening up on the inside, a game where John was superior. The result was that John had the upper hand for a while.

In an actual match with repuation on the line Jones would have kept at a distance distance and likely (no offense to John who was very very good in his own right) did his thing and won.

Still it's way cool to see you landing some good leather on Jones. No one else on this forum can say they did the same with a prime all time great.

Ya and it kinda shows Roy jones jr has no inside game! He was even trying to work on it in that gif and that was many years ago! He clearly cannot fight on the inside or off the ropes damn how come he couldnt adapt or get an inside game going after all these years? are some fighters just not capable of it. That is why roy jones cannot last in his older years beause he is slower then he was and you cannot rely on reflexes alone most fighters when they get older rely on an inside game since theire legs arent as fast as they used to or fight off the ropes like ali and james toney. Sad to say Jones weakness is his defense. He has marvelous speed and power but failing to use the fundemental defensive basics of boxing is his downfall. I guess it was habit forming.


Iceman I have a question: would you ever let one of your fighters train like that with no defense and just feints?

[puppy_dogg]

look at roys fights with brannon and sosa, especialy the merqui sosa fight. mabye they were'nt the best of the best kinda fighters but roy had game on the inside, mostly cause of those fast powerful hands but its not like you were gonna wipe jones out just by getting in on him.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Gerald was VERY susceptible to good boxers (he lost decisions to Ralph Ward and Dennis Milton). Lamar could PUNCH hard and he could box too. I would say Lamar had a VERY good chance at beating him and actually, Roys Dad Big Roy) told me he thought Lamar would have won. As far as our sparring goes, RJ was always ALWAYS in top condition. I was a super middle at the time and he was a middle and on the inside he was far from the strongest guy I ever boxed. Roy was a hard PUNCHER but that doesn't always mean a person is a strong fighter. Anyway, Roy was on the ropes a lot later on in the rounds of our sparring after I kept going to him and working him hard..in the beginning of the rounds it was MUCH MUCH harder to catch up to him like that. It took TIME to get him like that, you know? I have sparred and fought MANY MANY top flight world champions, gold medalists, contenders, etc.... RJ was overall the best of the bunch

ICE

[scap]

Any clue what Lamar is doing now?

[hectari]

Gerald was VERY susceptible to good boxers (he lost decisions to Ralph Ward and Dennis Milton). Lamar could PUNCH hard and he could box too. I would say Lamar had a VERY good chance at beating him and actually, Roys Dad Big Roy) told me he thought Lamar would have won. As far as our sparring goes, RJ was always ALWAYS in top condition. I was a super middle at the time and he was a middle and on the inside he was far from the strongest guy I ever boxed. Roy was a hard PUNCHER but that doesn't always mean a person is a strong fighter. Anyway, Roy was on the ropes a lot later on in the rounds of our sparring after I kept going to him and working him hard..in the beginning of the rounds it was MUCH MUCH harder to catch up to him like that. It took TIME to get him like that, you know? I have sparred and fought MANY MANY top flight world champions, gold medalists, contenders, etc.... RJ was overall the best of the bunch

ICE

so basically if you pressure him he tires down and your best chance would have to got him in the later rounds?

[hectari]

Any clue what Lamar is doing now?

I heard he gained alot of weight and is doing ok.

But what must really suck is how come guys with sexual appetites like lamar and magic johnson last once they get HIV? I mean it makes me wonder wont they still have the hunger for women and its ironic how they can control their appetite when they get aids. They can no longer have sex and they seem cool with it I just wonder why couldnt they control their wild ways of unprotected sex back then?

[scap]

I heard he gained alot of weight and is doing ok.

But what must really suck is how come guys with sexual appetites like lamar and magic johnson last once they get HIV? I mean it makes me wonder wont they still have the hunger for women and its ironic how they can control their appetite when they get aids. They can no longer have sex and they seem cool with it I just wonder why couldnt they control their wild ways of unprotected sex back then?

Dont be fooled by guys like Morrison, Lamar and Magic, **** Magic ****ed my sister 6 months ago in the bathroom at a Laker game and when I told her he had HIV she told me to **** off and mind my own business. These guys are probably pounding more then they ever have, the difference is they now have to use a little protection.