Comments Thread For: Muhammad Ali's Trainer is Helping Haye To Beat Klitschko

[adp023]

coz Dundee sure helped De La Hoya prepare for Pacquiao...

[Mr. Invincible]

Are you serious?? Ali a punching bag against Klitschko?? Ali had some of the best footwork seen by a heavyweight. He would beat both klitschkos because they cant cope with good movement. If haye can box effectively on the move then hes got a good chance.

I'm afraid the rope a dope wouldn't work on either Klitschko. They are too smart and way too big. Have fun living with the thoughts of that legend. That's all you have, I get it. What you don't realize is that Lennox and the Klitschko's are far bigger and better than anyone Ali ever faced and chances are they all 3 put him to sleep.

[Mr. Invincible]

Are you serious?? Ali a punching bag against Klitschko?? Ali had some of the best footwork seen by a heavyweight. He would beat both klitschkos because they cant cope with good movement. If haye can box effectively on the move then hes got a good chance.

And what makes you think they can't cope with good movement? A guess? Lol. Vitali has never been losing a pro fight at it's conclusion and has maybe lost ten rounds in his pro career. How does that equal not being able to deal with anything, much less movement?

[Mr. Invincible]

How can you be that sure, when Klitschko struggles to pull the trigger?

If Wladimir can't pull the trigger, that's what I wana be. The heavyweight champ who couldn't pull the trigger.

Lol

[Atldude6]

Klitschko Vs Ali?

I don't think you can take anything away from either Klitschko, they have dominated their (albeit weak) weight class for years, but you have never watched a heavyweight fight from yesteryear if you think either of them is as good as Foreman, Ali, or Fraiser.
First of all, back in those days, boxing attracted its fair share of world class athletes, now those guys are all playing other sports, like football or basketball. A lot of big assed slow white guys wound up on their trunks back in the day. Think Pavlik V.Hopkins.Honestly I LOVE to watch Kelly Pavlik fight and I think he was a good servicable Middleweight but with both he and Hopkins in their Prime, NOW THAT'S A REAL BAD ASS WHIPPING much worse than the one he took anyway. Secondly, they all had long amateur careers where they actually learned the craft of boxing, their skill sets were just better. Lastly although strength and conditioning have improved over-time that doesn't always translate into better boxers. the Average heavyweight can't even throw more than a 3 punch combination now. They look terribly slow though I am sure they do likely hit harder. They MIGHT be able to handle Fraiser, simply just because they are so much bigger than him but Ali and Foreman were both 6 3 or so and both had more hand speed than either Klitschko. Trust me guys, its NO contest.

[hweightblogger]

Were you just born last week? lol what do you mean "What can he tell Haye? lololol, this guy is from an ERA when the skill level of even the bums, would be better on average than what we consider to be elite now, LOL...for that uniformed opinion, you should stop supporting this sport period, you are DUMB.

Aaah, there we have the TYPICAL nostalgia fetishist again:
[x] Dwelling in supremacies
[x] Insulting others
[x] Hoping that repeating nonsense will somehow convince others

Hey, look around. It's time to unplug out of the Clay Matrix. The support for Clay is disintegrating. You won't convince anyone anymore with your statements.

[MRBOOMER]

With or without Dundee, Haye will get treated much like Ali would have against a prime Wladimir. Like a punching bag. Then knocked out.

Lol what Ali is ten times the man David is plus he's 10 times faster and 10 times the reflex oh let's not forget his chin that's not even a comparison.

[hweightblogger]

Lol what Ali is ten times the man David is plus he's 10 times faster and 10 times the reflex oh let's not forget his chin that's not even a comparison.

Clay is none of that. Did you actually watch Clay's FULL fights (not some YouTube snippets) or are you merely repeating what others told you?

David Haye is faster than Clay and has better reflexes than Clay.

Clay's chin is a mystery so I wouldn't use it as an argument.

Moreover Haye punches far harder than Clay.

The ONLY thing where Clay is better is stamina.

[MRBOOMER]

If someone can get inside the klitchkos (mostly wald) or slip those serious straight punches or catch them when they drop there left when throwing a big right they can go to sleep specially wald.

Why because wald= no chin

I can't think of a way to beat vitali unless your 6' 5" or taller and hit harder then they do with great patience great stamina, great speed, and a wonderful game plan

[Mr. Invincible]

I don't think you can take anything away from either Klitschko, they have dominated their (albeit weak) weight class for years, but you have never watched a heavyweight fight from yesteryear if you think either of them is as good as Foreman, Ali, or Fraiser.
First of all, back in those days, boxing attracted its fair share of world class athletes, now those guys are all playing other sports, like football or basketball. A lot of big assed slow white guys wound up on their trunks back in the day. Think Pavlik V.Hopkins.Honestly I LOVE to watch Kelly Pavlik fight and I think he was a good servicable Middleweight but with both he and Hopkins in their Prime, NOW THAT'S A REAL BAD ASS WHIPPING much worse than the one he took anyway. Secondly, they all had long amateur careers where they actually learned the craft of boxing, their skill sets were just better. Lastly although strength and conditioning have improved over-time that doesn't always translate into better boxers. the Average heavyweight can't even throw more than a 3 punch combination now. They look terribly slow though I am sure they do likely hit harder. They MIGHT be able to handle Fraiser, simply just because they are so much bigger than him but Ali and Foreman were both 6 3 or so and both had more hand speed than either Klitschko. Trust me guys, its NO contest.

Lol, Marciano dominated African American fighters by the dozens, don't try it. From there on, there have been zero big men with the skills the Klitschko's have. Don't fool yourself.