It makes no sense at all...

[Chopper417]

I don't see why people complain so much about the catchweight..

I mean, there were other catchweight title fights and we don't even hear people complain about them

But, it's PACQUIAO, so we must hate

Hell, nothing seemed to be wrong with Hopkins and ODLH fighting at a catchweight or Whitaker vs JCC

U want to know why the catch weight with Cotto was complete and utter bull****? Because Pac had already fought Oscar at a full 147. So wait you have already fought at the full WW limit but for your next fight at "welterweight" you want it at 145? Please someone explain the legitimacy of that to me, please.

[jrosales13]

U want to know why the catch weight with Cotto was complete and utter bull****? Because Pac had already fought Oscar at a full 147. So wait you have already fought at the full WW limit but for your next fight at "welterweight" you want it at 145? Please someone explain the legitimacy of that to me, please.

Well because, Cotto was truthfully their FIRST full fledged top WW. Oscar wasn't a full fledged top WW.

And, that catch-weight fight wasn't that bad Cotto was fine. People just make it out to be worse than what it actually was.

[iNDOLiFER]

^^^ true, I thought cotto did good but just couldn't keep up with PAC speed so what's a good way to discredit pac's win?? By saying he drained cotto..

[Bushbaby]

Clottey & Cotto are credible wins.Margarito & Mosley are straight garbage.

[Real King Kong]

People who say fighters shoulnt be written off after a loss are the same ones critizing pacmans achievements of fighting guys coming off a loss or a loss in his last 3 fights

These people are the same people who want the best to fight the best, for example the 147 division

the best fought the best so obviously so its more likely to take a lost!

I dont get why theres so much whining going on, pac fought the best comp out there other than Mosley which he is going to do now

Ok mosley is coming off a loss and a draw, Mayweather fought mosley who was actually ranked WW number 1.

But what about the other guys.. pac mixed in with top 147lbers like clottey and cotto

Pac and mayweather = ATG, HOF etc ...

but pac ranks higher, probably top 15 maybe even top 10.. or actually even top 5, why not

guys in the history section ranking guys who they have never actually seen box before and have been gassed up by what has been on paper.. times have changed

boxing has been around a long time. how can you compare guys with 50 or so fights in their career with guys who fought 100+...200+ fights. not to mention fighting top caliber opponents on a near monthly sometimes weekly basis. with only 8 weight classes and 1 champ per class...you had to beat the best to win a title. there were guys who fought their entire career beating some of the best opposition around that never even got a title shot. now we have 5, 6, 7 division "titlests"...its laughable. alot of fighters today wouldn't have made it in the 30s to 50s. picture amir khan being babysat at stillmans gym being brought along nice and careful. these old time guys got to be rolling in their graves.

[SlickTurtle]

U want to know why the catch weight with Cotto was complete and utter bull****? Because Pac had already fought Oscar at a full 147. So wait you have already fought at the full WW limit but for your next fight at "welterweight" you want it at 145? Please someone explain the legitimacy of that to me, please.

Oscar and Hopkins both had already fought at the full MW limit.. but they still fought at a catchweight..

That pisses you off a lot too.. right? lol

[Horvo]

But he fought them while there was some one better to fight: Sugar Shane Mosley.

When Floyd fought Shane, there was nobody better to fight, Shane was the best you can fight at WW division.

At 150[not even a weight class] Pacquiao fought, an absolute nobody, a guy who wasn't even ranked at 154 or 147. He could have fought anyone else at 154, any top 10 guy there, any one better than Margarito, for the vacant WBC title, a damn catchweight.

When he fought Clottey, he could have fought Mosley, when he fought Cotto, he could have either fought Cotto at least at 147, or fight Mosley. Now that he's fighting Mosley in 2011, instead of signing to fight Mosley, he could have fought Berto, or he could have fought Bradley who was willing to come up to 147.

You see the pattern, Pacquiao never fights the best, he fights those who are below the best. If you are the best, he will fight the guy under you.

Or he could have just avoided all of this, and accepted Mayweather's 14 day cut off when they were negotiating with the former judge/mediator guy, where Arum lied that Mayweather never offered a 14 day cut off, then the mdiator said Mayweather did offer a 14 day cut off, then Arum came out and admitted that he lied, it was posted right here on Boxingscene by BPP.

When he fought Cotto, Cotto and Mosley were almost ranked the same and Cotto had beaten Mosley.

When he fought Clottey, Mosley was not available, and Clottey was the top ranked WW available.

When he fought Margo, Margo was unranked because of his suspension not because he ******. Margo isn't a "nobody". (Freddy Hernandez is a Nobody.)How many guys at 154 would you favor over him even now? Cotto? Cintron? Wolak? Foreman? Bundrage? Kirkland? I bet you can't pick 3 ranked JMW's that would be favored over Margo. Margo shouldn't have gotten the fight because of his suspension, but that doesn't mean there were ten JMW's that could have given Pac a tougher fight.

And now when he's fighting Mosley you are still going to argue that he was ducking Berto after his one sided loss? He should have fought Berto for less money because Berto beat Quintana and Freddy Hernandez? Do you think Shane would have been able to stop Quintana and Hernandez? Do you think Berto might have looked worse against PBF and Mora?

He's practically cleaned out the WW division. The only people left fighting are Berto and Ortiz.

[Chopper417]

Oscar and Hopkins both had already fought at the full MW limit.. but they still fought at a catchweight..

That pisses you off a lot too.. right? lol

Absolutely. If you are going to fight at a weight class, then fight at that weight.

[Chuckguy]

^^^ true, I thought cotto did good but just couldn't keep up with PAC speed so what's a good way to discredit pac's win?? By saying he drained cotto..

that is ******ed to demand a catch weight
Ill admit that I think Cotto did just fine and your post about it is true in regards to the fight
but the fact that they made cotto come in at 145 when they fought oscar at 147 then were able to fight clottey at 147 is gargage
that is why pac is a sham
he is entertaining as heck to watch but to me most of his wins since moving up have asterisks on them
and just FYI I hate Floyd Mayweather

[Chuckguy]

When he fought Cotto, Cotto and Mosley were almost ranked the same and Cotto had beaten Mosley.

When he fought Clottey, Mosley was not available, and Clottey was the top ranked WW available.

When he fought Margo, Margo was unranked because of his suspension not because he ******. Margo isn't a "nobody". (Freddy Hernandez is a Nobody.)How many guys at 154 would you favor over him even now? Cotto? Cintron? Wolak? Foreman? Bundrage? Kirkland? I bet you can't pick 3 ranked JMW's that would be favored over Margo. Margo shouldn't have gotten the fight because of his suspension, but that doesn't mean there were ten JMW's that could have given Pac a tougher fight.

And now when he's fighting Mosley you are still going to argue that he was ducking Berto after his one sided loss? He should have fought Berto for less money because Berto beat Quintana and Freddy Hernandez? Do you think Shane would have been able to stop Quintana and Hernandez? Do you think Berto might have looked worse against PBF and Mora?

He's practically cleaned out the WW division. The only people left fighting are Berto and Ortiz.

I think you all give him way too much credit
you guys dont even take into account the comments made by his trainer
mosley 2 years ago-you are too good
then but not now
yuri foreman-he is too big
margarito-same size as margs but he isnt too big why?
cause like roach said-We saw your last two performances

come on man open your eyes