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  • #11
    I'm gonna have to disagree. Agbeko may of tried to make weight, which is good, but he was unprofessional by allowing himself to walk around at a weight that he could not drop in the allotted amount of time. Instead of being able to drop it in a somewhat healthy way, he probably starved himself and destroyed any hope of a fight.

    We cut these fighters too much credit. Their job is to entertain and also be professional(this is why they get paid more than most people do in a year for 36 minutes of fighting), which one part of being professional is being able to keep your body conditioned and make a weight that you made a commitment to make. I believe Agbeko should be heavily fined for not being able to fight. This sport is about the fans, not the fighters.

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    • #12
      Great find Walt

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      • #13
        Agbeko is a class act, as is Mares. I was really itching to see this fight, hopefully he has a quick recovery.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by borikua View Post
          Is Abner still fighting? Or are they just going to show the Vic-Perez fight?
          he's not fighting. he won't fight some throw-in.....

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Check View Post
            I'm gonna have to disagree. Agbeko may of tried to make weight, which is good, but he was unprofessional by allowing himself to walk around at a weight that he could not drop in the allotted amount of time. Instead of being able to drop it in a somewhat healthy way, he probably starved himself and destroyed any hope of a fight.

            We cut these fighters too much credit. Their job is to entertain and also be professional(this is why they get paid more than most people do in a year for 36 minutes of fighting), which one part of being professional is being able to keep your body conditioned and make a weight that you made a commitment to make. I believe Agbeko should be heavily fined for not being able to fight. This sport is about the fans, not the fighters.
            really, how does this make you feel.

            Agbeko quote:

            That is the way we run” explained Addy (Agbeko's trainer). “We run eight-to-ten miles a day. Normally, different fighters train differently. American fighters train one way; Ethiopian fighters train another way. African fighters, this is how we train. You can take somebody to the gym and first day, we do little exercise and they think we don’t train. A lot of people want to feel pain before they fight, so different people train differently.”



            No, no, no, I had no trouble with the weight,” said Agbeko. “I am a hard worker. I always prepare hard for my fights. It is something I am used to. Sometime I spar maybe seven, six days to the fight. Sometimes two weeks from the fight. It depends.”


            yes, you do have no idea what you're talking about

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            • #16
              Absolute class all the way around from both guys. Guys like this really make the entire sport look good and it is a shame that they don't get more exposure in the main stream. 99.9% of the general public have absolutely no idea who either of these guys are which is unfortunate. I will definitely be looking forward to their if it happens and wish King Kong a successful and speedy recovery..although I do like Mares in an exciting and very competitive fight.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Stones! View Post
                Agbeko is a class act, as is Mares. I was really itching to see this fight, hopefully he has a quick recovery.
                It's alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                  really, how does this make you feel.

                  Agbeko quote:

                  That is the way we run” explained Addy (Agbeko's trainer). “We run eight-to-ten miles a day. Normally, different fighters train differently. American fighters train one way; Ethiopian fighters train another way. African fighters, this is how we train. You can take somebody to the gym and first day, we do little exercise and they think we don’t train. A lot of people want to feel pain before they fight, so different people train differently.”



                  No, no, no, I had no trouble with the weight,” said Agbeko. “I am a hard worker. I always prepare hard for my fights. It is something I am used to. Sometime I spar maybe seven, six days to the fight. Sometimes two weeks from the fight. It depends.”


                  yes, you do have no idea what you're talking about
                  So, why did he pass out? I don't know for certain that is was the weight but I'm not going to take Agbekos word for it. What have the doctors said about it?

                  Either way my statements don't just go for Agbeko, it goes for all fighters that can't keep up their side of their contract. Boxing is bigger than any one fighter and if fighters aren't professional with their weight then they need to leave the sport. A lot of money can be made in boxing and if you aren't dedicated the sport will find other fighters to fill in. It's about the fans, not these fighters.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Check View Post
                    So, why did he pass out? I don't know for certain that is was the weight but I'm not going to take Agbekos word for it. What have the doctors said about it?

                    Either way my statements don't just go for Agbeko, it goes for all fighters that can't keep up their side of their contract. Boxing is bigger than any one fighter and if fighters aren't professional with their weight then they need to leave the sport. A lot of money can be made in boxing and if you aren't dedicated the sport will find other fighters to fill in. It's about the fans, not these fighters.
                    he has a sciatic nerve attack after he got off a long plane ride. definitely not out of the ordinary. he didn't pass out, he fell to the floor in pain because of the gigantic nerve in his back ..

                    he had a minor one in the past before the vic d fight.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                      he has a sciatic nerve attack after he got off a long plane ride. definitely not out of the ordinary. he didn't pass out, he fell to the floor in pain because of the gigantic nerve in his back ..

                      he had a minor one in the past before the vic d fight.
                      Okay, so what's going to prevent this from happening when the fight is signed for a later date? Are the fans going to be looking forward to the fight, just for it to be canceled again? If Agbeko is having a serious problem with this(which it sounds like he is) he should reconsider taking fights in America or flying a month or two early to get himself normal. It's unfortunate that he is dealing with this problem and Mares is being professional about it but Agbeko knows he has a problem and needs to address it accordingly in the future. It would be unacceptable if it happens again and part of me is not happy that Agbeko hasn't seen a doctor to address the problem.

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