How many of Ortiz's Titles weren't at a Catchweight?

[lyonheart]

BUT......catchweights are ******ed though. I dont like it. But 1 pound???? I could care less about a pound. It didnt have an outcome in the fight whatsoever.

[Russian Crushin]

Larry stop trolling.

There was a catchweight

[bojangles1987]

Maybe U should read that again.Berto's team went after Ortiz,Ortiz demanded the catchweight if he were to fight.But Berto went after Ortiz is my point & that's exactly what I said,U misread homey.

That isn't the same as team Pacman asking to fight Cotto & at a catchweight.Team Pacman demanded Cotto & the catchweight.Berto's team went looking for Ortiz & Ortiz demanded the catchweight to fight.

That's extremely hypocritical. If you hate Pacquiao winning a WW title at a catchweight, you should have just as big a problem with Ortiz winning a WW title at a catchweight.

[Bushbaby]

That's extremely hypocritical. If you hate Pacquiao winning a WW title at a catchweight, you should have just as big a problem with Ortiz winning a WW title at a catchweight.

Wow,so U jump of of misunderstanding my post on to something else altogether??That's how U get down??U don't even acknowledge ur **** up 1st??

[lyonheart]

Catchweights are bogus no matter the situation, but I dont think in the Cotto sitaution, or Berto's it made a difference. 2 pounds, 1 pound. It may have affected Cotto moreso imho....but Berto, no. He always comes in that light 145.5 to 146. Hes never on the mark. But, they couldve have simply not signed the contract if they felt it would hinder their performance.

[Russian Crushin]

100% of Ortiz's titles are VIA catchweight

25% of Manny's titles are VIA catchweight

[The Future]

I guess I'm talking about the 145(+1) Catchweight that was agreed to after Ortiz initially asked for a Catchweight of 143.

Lol, sure. Where the link with this info?

And look at bertos weights for his welterweight fights tell me how much he usually weighs in at.
Tell me if you think for some reason he was drained this time

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Some hypocrites in here

[Larry the boss]

Larry stop trolling.

There was a catchweight

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[Dirk Diggler UK]

Maybe U should read that again.Berto's team went after Ortiz,Ortiz demanded the catchweight if he were to fight.But Berto went after Ortiz is my point & that's exactly what I said,U misread homey.

That isn't the same as team Pacman asking to fight Cotto & at a catchweight.Team Pacman demanded Cotto & the catchweight.Berto's team went looking for Ortiz & Ortiz demanded the catchweight to fight.

I dont understand your logic here or how its any different.

Are you trying to say Cotto wasnt looking to fight Pacquiao?