**Ortiz vs Rios**

[turkas]

I don't want to see Ortiz every fight below 147 again.

[DTanc]

Here's the main thing in my mind- Rios looks a little soft (physically) at 135. He doesn't look like he kills himself to make the weight by evidence of him having a little pudge in his midsection usually. That to me says that a move up in weight is probably not a great idea for him. If he can comfortably make 135 I don't think he gets any better moving up.

Having said that, if he could get Ortiz to agree to come way down, say back to 140, where we know Ortiz will struggle to make weight, then I think Rios would win like Pac over DLH.

If Rios were to say "F it, I want the fight b/c I hate Victor, I'll go up to 147" or anywhere close to it where Victor is comfortable I think Victor will be too big for him. Bam Bam's style is to take punches so he can get inside and land his own, I don't see that working well if he goes in with guys way too big for him.

[MONOLITH]

Bam Bam's style is to take punches so he can get inside and land his own, I don't see that working well if he goes in with guys way too big for him.

Exactly. 140, maybe. After that, the guys get much bigger, stronger and hard-hitting. It's not that Bam Bam is small, but that his advantages are evened out as he goes up in weight. I have my doubts that he would be as successful above 135.

[TOBYLEE1]

Their weights are to far apart at this moment, before the Berto fight yes but not know

[Swag Hustla]

Rios is a pretty big lightweight and Garcia mentioned how he's moving up to 140 after a few more fights at Lightweight. I'm sure they can find some kind of agreement on weight.

But I have a hard time seeing this fight happen anytime soon. Ortiz just won a title in a new division which creates a lot of new opportunities for him. Rios has quite a bit of options as well.

[dabezt2]

As much as i like both of them, Ortiz would KO rios in the mid rounds.

Rios is a pressure fighter which breaks down fighters in the later rounds. The problem is he has NO DEFENSE. He takes massive damage while doing so. He showed alot of heart in the Acosta fight but Acosta came close to finishing him at some points. As much heart as Rios has, be would not be able to take the Massive damage a BIGGER AND STRONGER Ortiz would inflict. And offcourse there is no possible way of him outboxing victor since ortiz is far more skilled.

Bad matchup for Rios.