I bashed Mayweather recently Pacquiaos turn

[SplitSecond]

LOL. I don't care how you dress it up. Manny chooses who he wants to fight, end of.

he chooses to fight, not the fighter

[V.WEBB]

he chooses to fight, not the fighter

Come on man, don't be this gullible.

[al-Xander]

Generally, boxers just let their managers and trainers pick the right dancing partners for them. It was like that since time immemorial.

First fighter Pac was allowed to pick was Oscar Larios, which was a tuneup fight to please the people in Manila. Second time was when he picked Clottey. Even then it was a calculated risk, but turned out to be a disaster he later regretted. Who would have foreseen one fighter doing all the work in a boxing match? Pac's an entertainer. He had to do the entertaining alone even in the last few seconds of the fight. He was gasping for air. First time I saw Pac breath like hell. He complained in the post-fight interview that it was hard and implied that Floyd might be easier.

From then on, he decided to just let Arum pick the right partner for him. Most fans objected to the Margarito fight, including Pac fans. (I could dig up old threads for this.) Man, if you're a Pac fan this is a huge risk with zero credit. But Arum was set to make this fight happen at all costs. It almost seemed like Margarito was his own son.

[Las Vegas,]

he chooses to fight, not the fighter

Comon man, seriously? One of these days you gotta stop blaming the trainers, and the promoters, but instead blaming the actual fighter.

[Las Vegas,]

For real though, Pac back in 01-08 was nasty. I would of never thought that kid who I first saw here in San Francisco against Agapito Sanchez would become as big a star as he is now. Kinda Ironic how both Floyd and him were on the same card. I was a huge fan of his, he was just a fighter, that's what was so great about him. He reminded me so much of Trinidad. He would always fight the best...then after the DLH fight he saw the big money checks he started cherrypicking. Made me sick on the inside.

[Pullcounter]

Manny made a name for himself quick and in a dynamic way he destroyed Barrera went on to take 2-3 from Erik Morales.
he also fought two wars with Marquez,he beat bloody a very respectable David Diaz and then he turned south.
instead of fighting in a 140 pd division that would solidify him as an all time great he bypasses it for money,which he already has plenty of and for what to beat Cotto who was shop worn and coming off of a devistating career changing loss,and thats his best win at ww
then Clottey has anyone seen that punching bag since,dude collected millions and he did not even try,on to Margarito another shopworn fighter who had come off a huge layoff and beat a bum then gets a Pacquiao shot,now he is fighting Mosley the guy who got whooped by Mayweather and could not beat a B-fighter in Mora.
drop to 140 Manny have some prise in your legacy.

there's isn't really anything to criticize except that nobody wanted the margarito or mosley fights. those were fights that Arum insisted on doing. the clottey fight was understandable given that wifebeater didn't want to fight.

[JmH Reborn]

After Cotto, it went down hill. The Clottey and Margarito fights were clearly fights where Arum had no intentions of allowing Clottey or Margarito to win.

I give Pac benefit of the doubt. Pac wears so many hats and he lets others do the work. They say x is more profitable and doable, he'll take their word for it. Mosley was done after Cotto beat him. That was the end of his 'prime'. This fight Pac/Mosley just doesn't make sense. I hope the fight bombs

[Spray_resistant]

Manny made a name for himself quick and in a dynamic way he destroyed Barrera went on to take 2-3 from Erik Morales.
he also fought two wars with Marquez,he beat bloody a very respectable David Diaz and then he turned south.
instead of fighting in a 140 pd division that would solidify him as an all time great he bypasses it for money,which he already has plenty of and for what to beat Cotto who was shop worn and coming off of a devistating career changing loss,and thats his best win at ww
then Clottey has anyone seen that punching bag since,dude collected millions and he did not even try,on to Margarito another shopworn fighter who had come off a huge layoff and beat a bum then gets a Pacquiao shot,now he is fighting Mosley the guy who got whooped by Mayweather and could not beat a B-fighter in Mora.
drop to 140 Manny have some prise in your legacy.

How anyone can really question the Cotto, Clottey, and Marg wins is beyond me.......yeah shop worn off of 1 loss ok, Clottey was a top WW like it or not, Marg a top WW too for many years and still one of the better fighters around that he could have fought, even the SSM isn't that bad he lost to Floyd big deal.

[Cash Cow]

2008 Mayweather retired and Pacquiao had fought De La Hoya.



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Pac beats everyone @140 at that time..easy

[jrosales13]

I think he made all the right moves until the Margarito fight and now this Mosley crap...

Most definitely. PAC did things accordingly but Margarito and Mosley, he is just milking it.

Pretty much.