Andre Dirrell vs. Sergio Martinez

[2501]

Nevrmind, just realized you're a groupie. Shouldnt expect a groupie to actually know about boxing.

[Cash Cow]

A guy his size? He's in his 3rd weight division. He beat Kelly Pavlik, knocked out Paul Williams and Sergie D who was fighting at 154 longer than he has. He's only had 2 fights at 160.

So tell me, what guys has he fought that are smaller than him?

yeah Mayweather is on his 5th....Pac on his 8th....

whoopty do, he moved up 1 weight class already to 160lbs and has only fought 1 real MW.....is it too much to ask to move up another and take on real challenges or is he gonna pull a B Hop and call out WW & JMWs to come up?

[Danny Gunz]

Dirrell wins this one fairly easily. That is if he ever remembers his doctors name.

[Cash Cow]

A guy his size? He's in his 3rd weight division. He beat Kelly Pavlik, knocked out Paul Williams and Sergie D who was fighting at 154 longer than he has. He's only had 2 fights at 160.

So tell me, what guys has he fought that are smaller than him?

when did I say he fought guys that were smaller?...I said hes SEARCHING for WW's & JMWs to fight.....

[2501]

yeah Mayweather is on his 5th....Pac on his 8th....

whoopty do, he moved up 1 weight class already to 160lbs and has only fought 1 real MW.....is it too much to ask to move up another and take on real challenges or is he gonna pull a B Hop and call out WW & JMWs to come up?

not everyone is that type of class. If it were that easy, Pac and May's accomplishments would mean little. Of course, you wouldn't know. You don't follow boxing.

[Cash Cow]

not everyone is that type of class. If it were that easy, Pac and May's accomplishments would mean little. Of course, you wouldn't know. You don't follow boxing.

SO he can move up 1 weight class...but cant move up 2?

and people want this dude on the P4P list @ #1?

yeah I dont follow boxing.....yet I follow it enough to know if Sergio is Great move up 8 lbs and throw hands with a 168 lber...

doesnt skill win fights anyways?

[THe TRiNiTY]

This is one of the only things that bothers me about guys like Manny Pacquiao. When they move up, everyone assumes that everyone can/should move up now.

Martinez is a Jr. Middleweight fighting at the highest level at Middleweight and people expect him to keep moving up. I just don't get it. Not everyone needs to move up. Marvin Hangler never moved up and he did just fine for himself. Aside from a few catchweight bouts along the way, he never weighed in at more than 160 pounds.

Essentially Chavez was a Jr. Welterweight for the most part. At the very most, he was locked into 135 and 140 pounds. He could have fought in a higher division, but it wasn't needed.

You don't need to move up. That's not the only way to prove your a great fighter. You can also just dominate your division. That works, too.

[Cash Cow]

This is one of the only things that bothers me about guys like Manny Pacquiao. When they move up, everyone assumes that everyone can/should move up now.

Martinez is a Jr. Middleweight fighting at the highest level at Middleweight and people expect him to keep moving up. I just don't get it. Not everyone needs to move up. Marvin Hangler never moved up and he did just fine for himself. Aside from a few catchweight bouts along the way, he never weighed in at more than 160 pounds.

Essentially Chavez was a Jr. Welterweight for the most part. At the very most, he was locked into 135 and 140 pounds. He could have fought in a higher division, but it wasn't needed.

You don't need to move up. That's not the only way to prove your a great fighter. You can also just dominate your division. That works, too.

Fighting a 1 dimensional MW in Pavlik who was already beat up by old man Popkins is fighting at the highest level?

Knocking a guy out at his first fight at MW that nobody knew is fighting at ther highest level?

YES dominating a division does...but he has yet to do that, nor do I see him doing that....

[Cash Cow]

not everyone is that type of class. If it were that easy, Pac and May's accomplishments would mean little. Of course, you wouldn't know. You don't follow boxing.

I like Sergio but he has only been hot for like 4 fights....all this bandwagon shyt needs to stop....he wins the MW title then fights a JMW who nobody knew and who didnt even hold a belt @JMW or was ranked top 5 @ JMW..lol..

I think Sergio is good but he needs to fight a MW....

[THe TRiNiTY]

Fighting a 1 dimensional MW in Pavlik who was already beat up by old man Popkins is fighting at the highest level?

Knocking a guy out at his first fight at MW that nobody knew is fighting at ther highest level?

YES dominating a division does...but he has yet to do that, nor do I see him doing that....

Who should he fight then? Don't say anything else besides who he should fight next.

At Middleweight, he has two stoppage wins against Paul Williams and Dzinziruk. Whether or not people knew him is irrelevant. Dzinziruk is talented. In the fight that he didn't receive a stoppage, he fought the lineal champion in Kelly Pavlik. (Pavlik lost above Middleweight.)

You can try and discredit him all you want, but unlike you, I use facts. So, I'll always win.

So, once again, unless you're going to give me names at Middleweight that mean more than those three fights/fighters, don't respond to me.