Would Khan of took Berto's power?

[CarlosG815]

I am not too sure.

I knew styles make fights, but I didn't know...Power? makes fights?

Look, Khan took Maidana's punches very well especially in the 10th round.

Yet Ortiz couldn't take Maidana's punches, he quit, was hurt badly.

Then, Ortiz moves up to 147, and takes punches from a bigger man than Maidana's easily, I mean Ortiz took Berto's punches easier than he took Maidana's punches.

This either:

1. Says a lot about Maidana's power even as a 140 pounder.

2. Says a lot about Ortiz's new attitude of not quitting.


3. Berto is not as big of a puncher as we thought he was, not that he's a weakling, just that he can't stop everybody.

In the end, that particular punch that Berto caught Ortiz with, I don't know if Khan takes it at 147. What if Khan becomes stronger as he goes up in weight? And his ability to take a punch gets better as he gets older?

I agree with everything but the bold. Berto has one of the hardest right hands I've seen. That punch is dynamite. If he were more well rounded he could have forced a stoppage. It was one punch that rocked Ortiz and had him back peddling for the rest of the 6th round.

[koolttt]

I don't think khan could of taken those shots.

[Picazo]

Ortiz punch resistance came from not cutting so much weight to make 140, his body grew out of the division... think Cotto. Ortiz will look even better in his next fight. I belive Ortiz would stop Berto if they rematched.

[CarlosG815]

You massively overrate him, cause to my mind, in his last 2 fights, he's showed me he's not as good as perceived.

To each their own but I will stand by my thought that he is the best 140LB'r in the division and will beat Bradley and should have no problem unifying the title.

Khan did say that he wants to unify the division but he also said recently that he plans on moving to welter...

In his last two fights he has been nothing short of spectacular. He had gassed out in his fight against Maidana because of how hard he fought early on, which was a mistake. He got overanxious after that first round.

And in his last fight with McCloskey I do not see how you can use that fight as a gauge to say he isn't as good as you thought he was. The gap in class was monstrous and McCloskey had no idea what to do or how to deal with Khan. That was a one sided beat down that was headed toward a KO or another 12-0 fight for Khan, so the guy essentially quit because of a cut. He had no answer for Amir Khans ridiculous handspeed and tremendous boxing skills.

I think Khan could give Mayweather the toughest fight of his career and I think he could beat Manny Pacquiao.

[Picazo]

I don't think khan could of token those shots.

Khans resistance would only get better with the weight jump, belive it. Hes a huge 140 pounder. Also I dont see Berto landing those punches on Khan.

[-Spinal-]

I agree with everything but the bold. Berto has one of the hardest right hands I've seen. That punch is dynamite. If he were more well rounded he could have forced a stoppage. It was one punch that rocked Ortiz and had him back peddling for the rest of the 6th round.

I think Berto is powerful, i'm pretty sure he could have knocked out any 6-10 WW with that punch.

But if you noticed, he couldn't stop Collazo, he couldn't stop Forbes, he couldn't stop Urango.

I am a big Berto supporter, but I think his power has it's limits.

I do agree with you though, if he was more well rounded, he could have stopped Ortiz. I think Berto has an accuracy problem, because Ortiz is not that hard to hit but Berto missed quite a few shots that if he caught Ortiz, it would have have hurt Ortiz I believe.

[studentofthegam]

Would Khan of took Berto's power? Ortiz chin has in the past been questionable, but when you look at the shot Berto put him over with, and think to yourself, what happens if Amir Khan would of got hit like that? I dont think Khan would of been able to hold on to that kind of punch, I'm surprised Ortiz was able to, to be honest.

Luckily for Amir, Roach will keep him and Manny well away from Ortiz and Berto.

Ortiz has a far superior chin to Khan and has consistently taken on bigger punchers in comparison. Berto does Khan in 2-3 rounds by knock out.

[z0jo]

Ortiz has a far superior chin to Khan and has consistently taken on bigger punchers in comparison. Berto does Khan in 2-3 rounds by knock out.

then how did maidana floor and stop ortiz but couldn't do the same to khan?

[Dynamite Kid]

To each their own but I will stand by my thought that he is the best 140LB'r in the division and will beat Bradley and should have no problem unifying the title.

Khan did say that he wants to unify the division but he also said recently that he plans on moving to welter...

In his last two fights he has been nothing short of spectacular. He had gassed out in his fight against Maidana because of how hard he fought early on, which was a mistake. He got overanxious after that first round.

And in his last fight with McCloskey I do not see how you can use that fight as a gauge to say he isn't as good as you thought he was. The gap in class was monstrous and McCloskey had no idea what to do or how to deal with Khan. That was a one sided beat down that was headed toward a KO or another 12-0 fight for Khan, so the guy essentially quit because of a cut. He had no answer for Amir Khans ridiculous handspeed and tremendous boxing skills.

I think Khan could give Mayweather the toughest fight of his career and I think he could beat Manny Pacquiao.

He may beat Bradley, but that might be because Bradley lacks the power to slow him down. Its okay saying Khan come through against Maidana, but another ref might of stopped that fight, and whilst Khan managed to survive, he still got hurt again, who's to say he doesn't get knocked down by a lesser puncher in his next fight with more skill, a fighter who puts more disguise on their punches? stuff like that happens, a guy can fight a big puncher, come through the fight, but get hurt by a lesser puncher if he manages to catch him right.

Spectacular? The fact you said what you already said, now this, is vindication that you really are overrating him. Khan looked terrible against Maidana, he came through a balls to the wall fight to his credit, but his footwork, ring generalship was appalling.

Khan was getting trapped on the ropes against a guy that wasn't even cutting the ring down, he was getting timed with right hands inbetween his combo's whilst he was unloading, he was shooting punches from out of range when the opponent was moving away from him, he got hurt, and against McCloskey, he was lunging with his punches, was fighting on nervous energy to.

[koolttt]

Khans resistance would only get better with the weight jump, belive it. Hes a huge 140 pounder. Also I dont see Berto landing those punches on Khan.

Trust me if Maidana can land those bombs on Khan, Berto can land some big shots.