Why do you people have such a hard time recognizing when a fighter is shot?

[Battle*Hardened]

Maybe you should learn the differnce between past prime and shot?

[Kevin Malone]

These fighters are shot: Holyfield and Roy Jones Jr.

[SCtrojansbaby]

STFU you noob. Fans like you dont know ****. When a fighter loses idiots like you are easy to label them shot or bum. Losing is part of the game look at ****in morales, he was supposed to be shot five years ago yet put on a great show against maidana.

Those 3 you mentioned are not prime but are still capable of competing at elite level especially cotto.

yeah Mosley sure showed he can compete against Mora?

Yeah Cotto can still be elite yet take 9+ rounds to beat one legged bum like Foreman and a 37 year old coming out of retirment(mayorga)

[Weebler I]

Maybe you should learn the differnce between past prime and shot?

This.

Castillo is shot. Cotto, Margarito and Mosley are just past prime (although that remains to be seen in the case of Cotto and Margo who could still come back with significant victories).

[SCtrojansbaby]

These fighters are shot: Holyfield and Roy Jones Jr.

Cotto and Mosley are EVERY BIT as shot as they are. Margarito most likely is also.

[Kevin Malone]

Cotto and Mosley are EVERY BIT as shot as they are. Margarito most likely is also.

Holyfield and Roy Jones Jr. are getting stopped by club fighters. Cotto, Mosley, and Margarito can, and I think will, still defeat some of the top 10 in their division.

[johncods]

So it doesn't matter if they get butchered by Pacquiao and also lose to/have no prayer against Mayweather, they're elite regardless?

Perhaps your definition of elite and mine are different, but when I think elite, I think about a guy who actually has a shot to win.

Umm your definition of elite is just pac and mayweather? Well I guess those two are super elite but to say cotto or margarito is shot?? Who in the WW division would beat cotto? Do you think Mosley vs. ortiz would be competitive?

So now not being able to compete with pac or mayweather is not elite?

[Battle*Hardened]

Cotto and Mosley are EVERY BIT as shot as they are. Margarito most likely is also.

Lol your either just an idiot, or can't admit that you are wrong, so would rather continue looking dumb.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Holyfield and Roy Jones Jr. are getting stopped by club fighters. Cotto, Mosley, and Margarito can, and I think will, still defeat some of the top 10 in their division.

Mora is a club level fighter and Mosley got thoroughly embarrassed by him

Cotto has shown nothing in his fights with Foreman(1 leg bum) and Mayorga(37 year old coming out of retirement) to suggest he can fight competitively against a top 20 154 or 147.

[VolumePuncher]

Umm your definition of elite is just pac and mayweather? Well I guess those two are super elite but to say cotto or margarito is shot?? Who in the WW division would beat cotto? Do you think Mosley vs. ortiz would be competitive?

So now not being able to compete with pac or mayweather is not elite?

Elite means you have a realistic shot against anyone. There are two elite fighters right now until someone proves otherwise, which is not impossible.