manny is just a product of his trainers roach n ariza...

[danny711]

manny is just a product of his trainers roach n ariza...all manny is basically a guy with big heart and decent amount of pain he can take....its not like he was some natural dude or some born athlete he just had a big heart and willing to learn and roach and then ariza molded him into the guy you see today....its not really his doing in fact imagine if another person lets say torrecampo met roach he wouldve been manny...when you look at manny your looking at a product...

I would have to disagree. Fighters of that caliber are born that way. Not every fighter in Freddie's stable is a Pacquiao.

[Khalid X]

before roach


the ts made a valid point.

hes hard working and he can take a punch but if he fights someone like floyd he would get smashed,he doesnt have 3% of the skills floyds has,he use to fight some good people when he was in the lower division he beat people and people beat him but now it's a shame him fighting people who dont have it anymore,shane mosley is a joke right now he's in fact floyds 3rd leftover.

The gap in skill between Calderon and Segura, Mayorga and Forrest, and Roy and Tarver are all wider than the gap in skill level between Floyd and Manny.

In all three of those bouts the more skilled guy was completely annihilated. You would know that if you were a fan of the sport, but seeing how you suck Floyd off, I doubt you even seen those fights.

[Ryannn]

manny is just a product of his trainers roach n ariza...all manny is basically a guy with big heart and decent amount of pain he can take....its not like he was some natural dude or some born athlete he just had a big heart and willing to learn and roach and then ariza molded him into the guy you see today....its not really his doing in fact imagine if another person lets say torrecampo met roach he wouldve been manny...when you look at manny your looking at a product...

pacquiao was already a multiple champion at different weights before he met roach and WAY before he met ariza.

stop posting ******ed crap.

[Ryannn]

also, every fighter that trained under roach is as accomplished as pacquiao is.

wait....

[F l i c k e r]

Duh. No one but dick riders think he actually has that high level of skill that you see in guys like Floyd, Whitaker, ODLH, SRL, SRR etc etc.

Pacquiao just needed the right coach and some elite level conditioning to get where he is.

In the NFL, he would be a "system" quarterback. A guy who is good at say the spread offense but if you put him in the west coast offense, he can't do **** and looks like a bust.

[Pullcounter]

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

TS is a clown

[straightleft]

Duh. No one but dick riders think he actually has that high level of skill that you see in guys like Floyd, Whitaker, ODLH, SRL, SRR etc etc.

Pacquiao just needed the right coach and some elite level conditioning to get where he is.

In the NFL, he would be a "system" quarterback. A guy who is good at say the spread offense but if you put him in the west coast offense, he can't do **** and looks like a bust.

You are too ****** if you think Pac has no skills. Pac could box better than Floyd if he wants too like what he did to Margarito especially Oscar 100x much better than your queen win. Floyd might have a BORING better defense but Pac has a mile EXCITING offense than Floyd. If you think just having a good defense would be enough to call you better than Pac when you fail behind in offense department you are fool. One more thing, you can't put Floyd's name in the same sentence the like of SRL and SRR. He is too coward safe fighter first to be there.

[Canelo Phresh]

im all against his refusal to fight fair through random drug testing but doesnt mind breaking commission rules and charging more than the maximum allowable fine of 25% of the fighters gauranteed purse estimated ppv revenue doesnt count. buts hes a phenominal fighter and is definitely gifted.

[ronnie_N.]

LOL! was there any fighter in the history of the sport that has no trainer?... i might be wrong at this, but are there any?...

TS is a no-brainer... which makes Bozz a bigger idiot by saying that TS has a valid point...