Victor Ortiz is +325.. some serious money to be made

**Imatroll** · 04-13-2011, 05:50 PM

You guys need to put some G's on Ortiz

**Pullcounter** · 04-13-2011, 05:52 PM

ortiz has already proven that he is an beta-dog. if you hit him hard enough, he stops coming.

if ortiz all of a sudden wanted to get brave, berto isn't exactly the best guy to do that with.

**Imatroll** · 04-13-2011, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by Pullcounter

ortiz has already proven that he is an beta-dog. if you hit him hard enough, he stops coming.

if ortiz all of a sudden wanted to get brave, berto isn't exactly the best guy to do that with.

I see what you're saying but Berto isn't exactly a proven fighter either. The odds are way off

**ИATAS** · 04-13-2011, 05:57 PM

too risky for me. I know ortiz has talked a good game lately like he just doesn't give a **** but honestly he's been less than impressive post-maidana. I don't have faith in him to beat berto.

Plus, how motivated is berto? He knows a victory COULD bring him to a fight with pacquiao or mayweather. That's got to be some serious motivation.

Also he's undefeated against 140 pounders. That's his bread & butter right there.

**Imatroll** · 04-13-2011, 05:57 PM

To compare the odds to you guys..

Pacquiao is -600
Berto is -450

Seriously.. I don't understand how Berto "almost" has close odds as Pacquiao

**Kball15** · 04-13-2011, 05:58 PM

I don't think Ortiz will win.

He has a punchers chance for sure. His power is 100% legit.

But berto is way to fast, and punches hard to enough to make Ortiz think twice before jumping inside.

Ortiz has no jab. Its a really tough fight for him. I liker Berto, possibly inside the distance.

Two different classes of fighters. Ortiz is a B- or a C+ fighter, and Berto is a B+

**Imatroll** · 04-13-2011, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Kball15

I don't think Ortiz will win.

He has a punchers chance for sure. His power is 100% legit.

But berto is way to fast, and punches hard to enough to make Ortiz think twice before jumping inside.

Ortiz has no jab. Its a really tough fight for him. I liker Berto, possibly inside the distance.

Two different classes of fighters. Ortiz is a B- or a C+ fighter, and Berto is a B+

Watch this video and tell me Ortiz can't pull it off. All I'm saying is the odds are so far apart. Should be closer

**Kball15** · 04-13-2011, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by Imatroll

Watch this video and tell me Ortiz can't pull it off. All I'm saying is the odds are so far apart. Should be closer

Well like I said, Ortiz is a big puncher and definetly has a punchers chance at a KO.

But i still feel 3-1 or 4-1 is about right for this fight. Ortiz has an uphill battle in front of him.

He is very one dimensional while Berto has a couple different things he can do in the ring.

Berto is the classier fighter in this fight. Hes got the technique and the athleticism advantages, and if you have both that USUALLY (def not always) means you're going to win the fight

**THE REED** · 04-13-2011, 06:27 PM

It doesnt matter how good the odds are if the guy just isnt gonna win.

Victor Ortiz is +325.. some serious money to be made