2011: Who would you include/remove from 2003's 100 Greatest Punchers List

**Eastbay Giant** · 04-13-2011, 05:39 PM

I'll start by adding Manny Pacquiao to number 42 and replacing Spinks who I can't recall ever really crushing anyone.

**jimmy1569** · 04-13-2011, 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=MrWestGrand;10371333]In 2003 Ring Magazine compiled this list of what they thought was the 100 greatest punchers of all time. My question is how would you update the list in 2011, and why. Explain who should be added or removed, and what number would you rank them at given reason.

Source: Ring Magazine (2003)

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_punchers.htm

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White[/QUOTF

First of all any list that has Tua & lists 47 fighters in boxing history that were stronger punchers is a list that is NOT to be taken seriously. You add & place both Klitschko's in the top 2 & everybody else is irrelevant.

**Thread Stealer** · 04-13-2011, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by MrWestGrand

I'll start by adding Manny Pacquiao to number 42 and replacing Spinks who I can't recall ever really crushing anyone.

Spinks crushed Marvin Johnson with a single left "hookercut". He was a pretty big two-fisted puncher at LHW.

Originally posted by jimmy1569

First of all any list that has Tua & lists 47 fighters in boxing history that were stronger punchers is a list that is NOT to be taken seriously. You add & place both Klitschko's in the top 2 & everybody else is irrelevant.

They specified that their list was "greatest" punchers, not "hardest" or "strongest" punchers. They based it on a mixture of power and also effectiveness and how well fighters used their power.

**Thread Stealer** · 04-13-2011, 09:20 PM

I was thinking about this earlier. The article had a few categories for the fighters:

Best Punch
Best Knockout
Beyond the Punch
Man He Could Not Knockout
When the Punch Wasn't Enough

Some guys who would (or might) make the list, and how I rank them.

Manny Pacquiao

Best Punch: Straight Left
Greatest Knockout: Ricky Hatton
Beyond the Punch: Extremely fast hands and feet, improved skills, okay but not exceptional defense
Man He Could Not Knockout: Juan Manuel Marquez
When the Punch Wasn't Enough: Erik Morales 1

Diego Corrales

Best Punch: Left Hook
Greatest Knockout: Jose Luis Castillo 1
Beyond the Punch: Fast hands on the inside, nice combinations, so-so chin, fast recovery, slow feet
Man He Could Not Knockout: Joel Casamayor
When the Punch Wasn't Enough: Floyd Mayweather

Wladimir Klitschko

Best Punch: Straight Right
Greatest Knockout: Chris Byrd 2? Calvin Brock?
Beyond the Punch: Great jab, nice left hook, great size and strength, effective use of range, vulnerable chin
Man He Could Not Knockout: Sultan Ibragimov
When the Punch Wasn't Enough: Lamon Brewster 1

Shane Mosley

Best Punch: Left Hook, or his looping Right Hand
Greatest Knockout: Antonio Margarito
Beyond the Punch: Very fast, durable, great bodypuncher, vulnerable to jabs and clever boxers, tends to have problems adjusting mid-fight
Man He Could Not Knockout: Oscar De La Hoya
When the Punch Wasn't Enough: Miguel Cotto

Marco Antonio Barrera

Best Punch: Left Hook to the Body
Greatest Knockout: Kennedy McKinney
Beyond the Punch: Good chin, can brawl or box, vicious bodypuncher, excellent jab, terrific combinations
Man He Could Not Knockout: Erik Morales
When the Punch Wasn't Enough: Junior Jones fights (or Manny Pacquiao fights)

**The Gambler1981** · 04-13-2011, 09:21 PM

Ingemar Johansson comes to mind

**studentofthegam** · 04-13-2011, 09:25 PM

Im too lazy to research the names Im not so familiar with, but I'd add Tommy Morrison and find a way to move Benn up from 91.

**Thread Stealer** · 04-14-2011, 10:56 PM

Daniel Ponce De Leon would probably make the list too.

**Evil Abed** · 04-14-2011, 11:08 PM

I'd add Randell Bailey.

Not sure what # though.

2011: Who would you include/remove from 2003's 100 Greatest Punchers List