Shaver's Punching Power Is Completely Overrated.

[nomadman]

Another dumbass thread saying someone is overated,go let him punch you in the face now and then tell us about it

Why would anyone want to let a heavyweight boxer punch them in the face?

[Brother Jay]

Let's get real for a second here. His KO power is comparable to Vitali Klitschko where they are just heavy handed thudding accumulative punchers.

Vitali has more 1 punch KO"s than Shavers.


Shannon Briggs said Vitali hit him harder than Foreman or Lewis....... but really who do you guys believe? Shannon or actual facts.

Shavers hurt a lot of people but was never able to put them away at the highest level and his 1 punch KO prowess is like the toothfairy.

Dude hit hard but to always bring his name up in historical context of punchers is biased and ******ed. Especially when everyone pretty much agrees one of the determining factors of KO power is 1 punch KO prowess. Holmes got caught about as flush as a man could and came back to beat his ass. Ali didnt even get dropped.


When you're talking the most poweful punchers you have to look at facts. 1 punch KO is the best indicator of KO power. David Tua, Mike Tyson, Joe Louis, Wlad Klit, Lennox Lewis and Rocky Marciano.


The end.

This must be a post to get attention, because the premise is simply ignorant. Shavers was one of the hardest punchers in history. There is no doubt about this. No need to go any further.

[tyger]

Only in a time of a sorry and limited heavyweight division is it necessary for boxing newbies and nuthuggers to try to downgrade other eras.

[Pessimistic]

He couldn't put away Randall 'Tex' Cobb with clean on the chin shots.

[StarshipTrooper]

He couldn't put away Randall 'Tex' Cobb with clean on the chin shots.

Neither could anyone else until Cobb started doing coke. Great chins beat great punches.

Poet

[nomadman]

This must be a post to get attention, because the premise is simply ignorant. Shavers was one of the hardest punchers in history. There is no doubt about this. No need to go any further.

I think there's more than enough doubt about it. Like I've asked countless times before, how many one punch knockouts does Shavers have? One, by my count, and Ellis, though effed up, wasn't knocked completely unconscious like Wilson and Chambers were. When did Shavers ever Ruiz somebody like Tua did? Punched them out so badly that they were left like a dead man on the canvas? Why couldn't he knock out or at least knock down an old Ali, the way Tyson did to Holmes? Ali was way more gone than Holmes was when Shavers fought him.

An ATG puncher shouldn't have these questions hanging over them. Yet when pressed all anyone can ever do is bring up the same tired old quotes, "oh Shavers hit me so hard my head exploded then reformed a moment later" etc, etc. The only conclusion I can come to is that these people don't consider Shavers's actions impressive enough to speak for themselves. Else why the need to bolster them?

Not once in this thread, or in any other thread, have I come across a reasoned and convincing argument for Shavers that doesn't include at least one quote. It's almost like a tradition. Talk about Shavers, quote somebody who beat him.

Only in a time of a sorry and limited heavyweight division is it necessary for boxing newbies and nuthuggers to try to downgrade other eras.

I won't speak for anyone else, but my aim isn't to downgrade or disrespect anybody, but to put things into what I see as their proper place. I don't claim to be right, which is why I invite reasoned discussion, but this closed-minded mentality of, "thou shalt not question the great ones" does no one any favours and reinforces boundaries that shouldn't be there in the first place. Like I said earlier in the thread, I'm a fan of Shavers and have rewatched many of his fights. That's a genuine statement of truth and not just something meant to mitigate the wrath of any replies to my posts. But filtering out all the chaff and analysing his fights with as objective an eye as I can muster, I can't honestly state that Shavers merits the position he's been given as hardest puncher in history.

But like I said, I'm open to convincing otherwise.

[Guest]

He damn sure looked like he cold decapitate some people in those vids.

[hweightblogger]

An ATG puncher shouldn't have these questions hanging over them. Yet when pressed all anyone can ever do is bring up the same tired old quotes, "oh Shavers hit me so hard my head exploded then reformed a moment later" etc, etc.

Exactly.

The main foundation of Shavers' supposedly out-of-the-world punching powers are quotes:

http://www.heavyweightblog.com/2318/...ed-featherfist

[nomadman]

He damn sure looked like he cold decapitate some people in those vids.

For me Shavers's most impressive single punch (it wasn't a knockout, but then they rarely were with Shavers) was the left hook that put down Ron Lyle in their epic but little seen slugfest. Lyle was a tough cookie with a solid jaw but Shavers almost took his head off and had him drooling and half slumped against the ropes a la Tua Izon. It's often said, but that's one of the few times where I can say, hand on heart, "how the hell did he get up from that?"

[Larry the boss]

smh........................