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    #121
    ask yourselves this question who fought the better fighters at 130 135

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    • Chups
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      #122
      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
      thats not how it goes...but whatever. and lets ignore the fact that zaragosa was at the tail end of his career rite? u cant criticize floyd for fighting mosely and then count zaragosa as a good win for morales...but hey, different rules apply to floyd.

      best wins for morales are:
      pacquiao
      barerra
      jones

      next tier:
      zaragosa
      paulie ayala
      jesus chavez(whom floyd beat first)
      and carlos hernandez(whom floyd beat first.)

      3 division champ. great resume, but still not better than floyds overall.
      I did not criticize Mosley at all....I'm just saying that Barrera is greater than Mosley....whether Floyd fought him in his prime or not. You can't really put Jones in there coz he is just a good champion....he is not a HOF, just as you can't put Corrales.

      By greatness among their opponents it goes like this :

      Pacquiao
      Barrera
      Oscar
      Mosley
      Marquez
      Zaragosa

      And if you are gonna start mention tail-end, that would be a devastating debate for Floyd.

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        #123
        Originally posted by $ jmoney 210 $
        ask yourselves this question who fought the better fighters at 130 135
        LOL..................no matter how you spin it KID el terrible has a greater resume than floyd........................sorry

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          #124
          Originally posted by STRUGG
          LOL..................no matter how you spin it KID el terrible has a greater resume than floyd........................sorry
          i never said floys had the better resume

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            #125
            Originally posted by $ jmoney 210 $
            i never said floys had the better resume
            why limit it into 2 divisions then ?..................

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              #126
              Originally posted by Chups
              I did not criticize Mosley at all....I'm just saying that Barrera is greater than Mosley....whether Floyd fought him in his prime or not. You can't really put Jones in there coz he is just a good champion....he is not a HOF, just as you can't put Corrales.

              By greatness among their opponents it goes like this :

              Pacquiao
              Barrera
              Oscar
              Mosley
              Marquez
              Zaragosa

              And if you are gonna start mention tail-end, that would be a devastating debate for Floyd.
              u can mention all the tail end fighters u want, the fact is still zaragosa is not a better win than a number of ppl on floyds resume. he was a hof fighter. but at the end of the day when matters more than who.

              he fought 2 great fighters and a few really good fighters over 3 weight classes.

              floyd has fought a bunch of really good and good fighters over 5 weight classes and is still undefeated. ppl seem to think that **** is easy. i dunno whats easy about it, even the great eric morales lost to frikkin zahir raheem.

              but whatever, u wanna make these threads and argue, im all for it. i am more than capable of backing up everything i say.

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                #127
                Originally posted by STRUGG
                why limit it into 2 divisions then ?..................
                they both fought at those divisions who fought the more quality opponents
                at those weight classes

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                  u can mention all the tail end fighters u want, the fact is still zaragosa is not a better win than a number of ppl on floyds resume. he was a hof fighter. but at the end of the day when matters more than who.

                  he fought 2 great fighters and a few really good fighters over 3 weight classes.

                  floyd has fought a bunch of really good and good fighters over 5 weight classes and is still undefeated. ppl seem to think that **** is easy. i dunno whats easy about it, even the great eric morales lost to frikkin zahir raheem.

                  but whatever, u wanna make these threads and argue, im all for it. i am more than capable of backing up everything i say.
                  Thanks for mentioning Floyd's 5 weightclass achievements....I've forgotten about that, he is a 5 time champ at 5 weightclasses after all.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                    overall floyds career > erik morales and mab and jmm

                    he may not have the special fights etc. but he's achieved a hell of a lot more and he has fought the better overall competition. thats why hes ranked higher atg wise than all of them. but of course whether ppl in nsb choose to believe that is a question better left untouched.
                    ^^This, but of course, this is a thread designed to be a place where a tard can be a tard.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Chups
                      Morales wins:

                      Zaragosa

                      Junior Jones
                      McCollough
                      Barrera
                      Kelley
                      Guty Espadas
                      Injin Chi
                      Paulie Ayala
                      Chavez
                      Hernandez
                      Pacquiao




                      Mayweather wins:

                      Manfredy
                      Corrales
                      Hernandez
                      Castillo
                      Chavez
                      Gatti
                      Judah
                      Oscar Dela Hoya
                      Hatton
                      Marquez
                      Mosley


                      Bolded names are HOF
                      Not bad , but more than a little biased.

                      Fighting a prime Castillo who pretty much emulated Chavez was pretty dangerous and Floyd came out on top twice ( I thought Castillo should have won the first.) That's a pretty damn big accomplishment right there that goes overlooked. Taking Corrales "0" was another big one. Tie in the Manfredy ass whooping, i think he took Angels 0 too. Jesus Chavez too. Hatton too, although I always thought Hatton wasn't legit, being the first to knock him out was pretty big. The Gatti win wasn't that great TBH, people complain about Pac fighting Marg after the Cotto and Shane fights, Gatti was more damaged. At least Floyd put him out without getting scratched though. ****** Gatti fight plan. Beating Famoso and Goyo was also pretty big. People who didnt watch during those years dont know that Chavez, Goyo, Famoso were a gauntlet all their own and in their prime.

                      The Morales resume is nice but please, if it was really that great, during his prime he would have been ranked in the P4P higher than Floyd, which he never was.

                      Im a big Morales Fan and was a one time Floyd hater but to say that Morales resume is in any way better is just bull**** to try and pad Mannys win as better than it actually was and paint Manny in a better light now than Floyd which is bull**** too.

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