Hozumi Hasegawa/Jhonny Gonzalez Results

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  • BG_Knocc_Out
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    Originally posted by Pirao
    People used to be so high on this guy, saying he should be in the top 10 P4P The hypejob got exposed soon enough.
    Moving up two weight classes to fight a pure power puncher wouldn't exactly be called "exposed", its called expected. I guy who was knocked out at Bantamweight will surely be KO'd two weight classes above against a guy that contains the power to do so. Not to mention Hozumi's biggest flaw is that he likes to be hit.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out
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      Moving up two weight classes to fight a pure power puncher wouldn't exactly be called "exposed", its called expected. I guy who was knocked out at Bantamweight will surely be KO'd two weight classes above against a guy that contains the power to do so. Not to mention Hozumi's biggest flaw is that he likes to be hit.

      I don't think it was expected, but you are right in that Hasegawa wasn't necessarily exposed.

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        #13
        I don't think Hasegawa was exposed, he was a very good fighter a bantamweight.

        However, I did think he becoming overrated by many on here. People were saying he was 'unbeatable' at the weight, despite the fact his best win was a Sahaprom on the slide and never really beat elite fighters in the division. He got his rep due to his consistency and longevity.

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          #14
          Originally posted by jreckoning
          I don't think it was expected, but you are right in that Hasegawa wasn't necessarily exposed.
          Well, I think anybody who wasn't being delusional saw this coming. The man went to war with Burgos and got hurt for it, and Burgos doesn't hit as hard as Gonzalez. The many is too willing to trade, and I always though it was a terrible decision to move up two weight classes. He certainly showed that he's extremely small for the weight in his two fights there.

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            #15
            Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out
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            Moving up two weight classes to fight a pure power puncher wouldn't exactly be called "exposed", its called expected. I guy who was knocked out at Bantamweight will surely be KO'd two weight classes above against a guy that contains the power to do so. Not to mention Hozumi's biggest flaw is that he likes to be hit.

            Exactly. If it continued the way it was going prior to the stoppage. I could see Hozumi winning a really close decision. Or maybe even better than a close decision if Gonzalez slowed down, because it was clear that Hozumi's move was to work the body early.

            I was hoping that that would be one of the biggest improvements he would make by learning from the Montiel fight, but like you said, he likes to be hit.

            He should already know that he doesn't have the power to be trading especially considering the weight class he's in now.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Pirao
              People used to be so high on this guy, saying he should be in the top 10 P4P The hypejob got exposed soon enough.
              LOL, as soon as Burner aka No Ceilings gets on a bandwagon it comes crashing down.

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                #17
                Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out
                Well, I think anybody who wasn't being delusional saw this coming. The man went to war with Burgos and got hurt for it, and Burgos doesn't hit as hard as Gonzalez. The many is too willing to trade, and I always though it was a terrible decision to move up two weight classes. He certainly showed that he's extremely small for the weight in his two fights there.

                I agree that it was a dumb move on Hasegawa's part to move up to 126 but Gonzales was ko'ed by Nishioka, who is not a terrific puncher, at 122 so Gonzales was the underdog at the books.

                I think it was a case of Gonzales being underrated because of his spectacular ko losses ie Nishioka and Penalosa.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by he3r0
                  Exactly. If it continued the way it was going prior to the stoppage. I could see Hozumi winning a really close decision. Or maybe even better than a close decision if Gonzalez slowed down, because it was clear that Hozumi's move was to work the body early.

                  I was hoping that that would be one of the biggest improvements he would make by learning from the Montiel fight, but like you said, he likes to be hit.

                  He should already know that he doesn't have the power to be trading especially considering the weight class he's in now.
                  Yup, exactly. He didn't have the power at Bantam either, and he still believes he trade now. Hozumi has all the skill and talent in the world, but he's so damn stuborn in the ring.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out
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                    Moving up two weight classes to fight a pure power puncher wouldn't exactly be called "exposed", its called expected. I guy who was knocked out at Bantamweight will surely be KO'd two weight classes above against a guy that contains the power to do so. Not to mention Hozumi's biggest flaw is that he likes to be hit.
                    Gonzalez was stopped at bantamweight too, not to mention twice at super bantamweight.

                    Anyway, props to him for taking home the title.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      I agree that it was a dumb move on Hasegawa's part to move up to 126 but Gonzales was ko'ed by Nishioka, who is not a terrific puncher, at 122 so Gonzales was the underdog at the books.

                      I think it was a case of Gonzales being underrated because of his spectacular ko losses ie Nishioka and Penalosa.
                      Talk about hitting the nail right on the head.

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