Ariza: "Manny has completely changed his mental approach to the fight"

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  • Hallaqsillaq
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    #31
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    pac is a small WW. he could still make jr WW and if he really wanted to he could make 135 lbs.
    If you guys say so.

    Some of us believe he's not so small, maybe not a big WW, let's just say he's a natural WW and leave it at that. When, or how, or under whatever conditions he became so is irrelevant for the past few fights.

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    • fabie
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      #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      It's not even a real record. Just some BS they made up. Come on, dude. Think like a boxing fan.

      And yes, Floyd cherry picked at the top, they all do. But that was in 2006. It's 2011. Floyd had his critics back then (still does). Manny's d*ckriding fans are pretending they don't see the obvious.
      All does these things (much to the demise of the sport) but dynamically and more dramatically was Pacquiao's last 4 years of ascending on the weight level and beating everybody up on the way, that it itself is impressive.

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      • ThePrince
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        #33
        Ariza has a great point- Guys cutting extreme amounts of weight takes away from their performance. It'd be better if they employed Pac's tactics and training regiment of high caloric intake and training like a ****ing beast and maintaining optimal weight instead.

        Good thing Ariza's keeping a blog- that way other trainers/nutritionists or anyone looking to get into great fighting shape has a blueprint.

        Hopefully he doesn't forget the key ingredient though- A Side Meth, without it all that training amounts to ****

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        • Hallaqsillaq
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          #34
          Originally posted by ThePrince
          Ariza has a great point- Guys cutting extreme amounts of weight takes away from their performance. It'd be better if they employed Pac's tactics and training regiment of high caloric intake and training like a ****ing beast and maintaining optimal weight instead.

          Good thing Ariza's keeping a blog- that way other trainers/nutritionists or anyone looking to get into great fighting shape has a blueprint.

          Hopefully he doesn't forget the key ingredient though- A Side Meth, without it all that training amounts to ****
          This could be a more effective method, and if Ariza starts proving it works with other fighters we might soon see a paradigm shift in these methods..

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            #35
            Originally posted by fabie
            All does these things (much to the demise of the sport) but dynamically and more dramatically was Pacquiao's last 4 years of ascending on the weight level and beating everybody up on the way, that it itself is impressive.
            Of course it is. But that was then, this is now. Not going to be holding on to some fantasy forever.

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            • Gutz
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              #36
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              I'd rather someone fight the best than just "go up" to fight someone bigger. For instance, fighting a faded Margarito at some odd catchweight is worse than fighting a top welter. But anyway yes, Pacquiao is a strong welter.


              Can you name a top Welter that Margarito cant beat that Manny hasnt beating yet?

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              • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                #37
                Pac IS NOT A REGULAR WELTER in this era of boxing. with the 24 rehydration period, regular welters rehydrate to 154 & 160lbs on fight night. That's a regular welterweight in todays 24 rehydration period.

                Pac comes in as a welter on fight night. That is NOT A REGULAR WELTER in this day & age of 24 rehydration. The only other welter that does that is Floyd in his early days at 147. Now, floyd is older, he's just like any other welter.

                They weigh in at 147 then rehydrate to 154 & 160. There's a reason why floyd refused hbo to take his fight night weight vs marquez. He comes in over the welter limit now.

                Anybody who says pac is a regular welter in todays 24 hr rehydration rule is a ****ing moron.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Gutz
                  Can you name a top Welter that Margarito cant beat that Manny hasnt beating yet?
                  Is this the logic you use? Well then I can't help you. Go play with yourself (again).

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                  • Gutz
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Is this the logic you use? Well then I can't help you. Go play with yourself (again).


                    So i guess you cant answer the question...

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Gutz
                      So i guess you cant answer the question...

                      Because, it's a pretty weak logic man.

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