It's good that people are starting to realise that Haye is actually good, can you imagine if Haye knocks him out and then goes onto fight Vitali how big would that fight be...
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Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya View PostYou also agree that Solis landed punches and he got around that jab when he was landing those shots.Normally no one ever lands shots on the Klistchkos,people can not get past that jab.Solis showed how possible it is to get past that jab and that's the blue print to beating the Klistchkos.
Haye is better than Solis and he has tremendous power in both hands.We all know that Wladmir's chin can be cracked because it has given up before.From a technical perspective I think Haye is better than Wladmir and he will land those shots.With Haye being so powerful and so fast he will be having a field day come fight night.He will hit and move out,quickly go in and out then set Wladmir up.I admire your passion for the Klitschkos,we all have our favourite fighters that is why this fight is eagerly awaited.
Now i ask...shouldn't that be the other way around.. He couldn't look Vitali in the eyes before the fight & after the fight... If he gets back in the ring with him it'll be a shock to me to say the least. Dude..will have nightmares of a crazed Vitali hovering over his lifeless body telling him to proceed with the beatdown he had in store. Blueprint... my ass$$.. if anything Vitali showed how even more difficult it is to beat him without any injuries... it's ****ing impossible as he simple knows how to dominate on offense & dominate on defense with his last line of defense even if he gets hit with your best possible punch that you can throw... he'll simply roll with it.
Vitali's took Lewis' best punch while COMPLETELY ****ING EXHAUSTED & DIDN'T even see the punch even thrown..let alone coming... what about Sanders sneaky left counter.. or Peter's ARreola's.. Briggs... they all landed or tried to land there Homerun punch... even Solis landed a counter right early in the rd that would've had most other heavies in trouble because of the swiftness of it.. Dude can avoid your best punch but even if it lands...he knows how to fend you off by countering...tying you up.
Watch what he did with Sanders... most other fighters would've been ktfo several times being caught with that superfast left from close range (his brother did).. He knew how to survive.. kept on taking that punch.. if you see in the second rd at times Vitali had his hands completely by his waist & Sanders was getting free shots in... it was vITALI's way of getting used to them.. same as with Solis... once he knew & timed there quickness when they countered it took the surprise element away & negated there speed advantage & you saw the results..
.Sanders did get through a few more times (the guy is super quick) but Vitali knew what to do & Gave him the beating of his life each time he did. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE VITALI'S ABILITY TO ADJUST IN THE RING WHEN YOU HAVE SUPPOSEDLY FOUND A WEAK LINK IN HIS ARMOR. THE ONLY TIME HE COULDN'T ADJUST WAS IN HIS 2 LOSSES BECAUSE OF INJURIES SUFFERED..THEN AGAIN HE WAS WINNING THOSE FIGHTS JUST THE SAME & WOULDN'T OF HAD TO.. THE MOST UNBEATABLE FIGHTER WE'VE EVER HAD IN THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION BAR NONE....THE NUMBERS & ALL THE INTANGIBLES BARE THIS OUT... SIMPLY PUT... NO INJURIES... NO LOSSES.... THOSE ARE THE FACTS!
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I even called the possible outcome of that fight beforehand. I said if Solis comes inside as he does with every other fighter with his aggression..it would get himself knockedout.. because he'd be leaving himself open. He couldn't utilyze his stellar highguard defense when he's throwing punches... he missed badly as Vitali was ready for him on that possession. Solis put himself out of position to defend the punch... was NOT in the proper balance because of that & Vitali lowered the boom & everything else went into effect. Vitali's defense combined with his offense in perfect unison & created the entire knockout. We can credit Solis' weight for the crumbling of his knees till the cows come home... Replays of the entire sequence shows Vitali maKING him miss by moving away..Solis overcommitted with his combination & left himself open & with improper balance. Vitali's D was the main thing in setting up the KO (BUT NO ONE EVEN CREDITS HIM FOR IT) & the punch created the chain reaction... if YOU don't believe this is EXACTLY what transpired you better recognize as i'm telling it like it was/is.
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A lot of people predicting Hayes gonna get KO'd. A cant see it myself, his speed and power is enough to trouble anyone in the world. I think that its going to be a long drawn out fight that will will see either Klitzcko win by late stopage or Haye wins on points. Wouldnt bet against Haye Knocking out Klitzcko tho, he stumbled Valuev and Klitzchos going to get caught more then once on the night. In all honesty, its a hard fight to call.
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Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View PostYeah Haye just needs to take away Wlad's jab, right hand and left hook, and he'll be fine. Wait, wasn't Wlad throwing uppercuts in his last fight?
Wlad does not lead with his right, hook much with his left, nor uppercut that often.
Wlad works behind the jab a lot, and doesn't have the confidence to do much else until he has that working, and hurting people.
Haye is by no means a Samuel Peters! He won't be there to get hit, hits fast and hard back too. The main problem is at Hw his workrate goes down a lot and his stamina is not so good!
Haye is athletically as gifted as Wlad IMO. In terms of size, he loses some advantages though!
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Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya View PostSolis showed how a shorter guy could get through to the Klitschkos.T
And if you think a single round in which the only meaningful punch was landed by Vitali shows anything about Solis (other than the fact that his leg wasn't in shape) then you really are a fantasist. Gomez landed a few punches against Vitali and won a couple of rounds but he still got taken tothe cleaners and knocked out. One round which was very close before Solis was legitimately knocked down tells you absolutely nothing about how the fight would have gone if he hadn't been injured on his way down. And it would have been a 10-8 round for Vitali even if Solis hadn't got injured.Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-06-2011, 01:56 PM.
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