This man retired 34-0. Why is he not considered an all time great?

[Lead Cenobite]

is this the same joe calzaghe that was scared of flying? (only to go to america to fight though, flying on holidays was ok)

Remember when dirk and his buddies tried to deny that on that other thread? Only to ignore links that showed Joe said that (therefore lied about flying).

hahaha. Cowards do tend to conveniently ignore facts in order to push their agenda.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

is this the same joe calzaghe that was scared of flying? (only to go to america to fight though, flying on holidays was ok)

Joe would've walked to America to take on those Yank pusses.

Those Yankies have been tamed.

[Larry the boss]

Joe would've walked to America to take on those Yank pusses.

Those Yankies have been tamed.

rotfl.....................

[Squizz]

Joe would've walked to America to take on those Yank pusses.

Those Yankies have been tamed.

Typical idiotic British banter. Keep going. We'll keep laughing. Thanks!

[Guest]

Ottke beat both Michael Moorer and Antonio Tarver in the amateurs among others.

Maybe he got some "gifts" as a pro, but that's pretty impressive for a non-puncher.

[$Bullsfam$]

His KO of Mudine is an ALL TIME GREAT KO....One of my all time favorites...

[Lead Cenobite]

Ottke beat both Michael Moorer and Antonio Tarver in the amateurs among others.

Maybe he got some "gifts" as a pro, but that's pretty impressive for a non-puncher.

Yup. Yet Joe's fans downplay him? Why. Those names are as impressive as anything Joe ever did.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yup. Yet Joe's fans downplay him? Why. Those names are as impressive as anything Joe ever did.

Damn impressive.

1. Joe
2. Ottke
3. Roy
4. Toney
5. Froch


9,999. Jean Pascal

Honourable mention: Bernard Hopkins

[miron_lang]

Joe Calzaghe and Sven both undefeated at the same era and are within each others division.


I think we will see more and more retiring undefeated fighters in the future.

[daggum]

Ottke beat both Michael Moorer and Antonio Tarver in the amateurs among others.

Maybe he got some "gifts" as a pro, but that's pretty impressive for a non-puncher.

non puncher? you feeling alright? ottke could punch. records can be so deceiving. this guy was no joe calzaghe racking up slappy wins against guys that weren't even hurt.