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  • #11
    Originally posted by MXboxingfan View Post
    Iván Calderón had a good hall of fame career. He should retire now.

    Giovanni Segura should make 108 one last time and fight Román González.
    I see another fight for Ivan and he does still have one decent fight with an opponent that is less power and height advantage.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
      Calderon is definitely not a HOF fighter. I dpnt understand how many times I have to say that. He only beat 4 top fighters his entire career. He never unified at Minimumweight. He is at a tiny weight class. What makes people think he is going to get in the HOF?
      Out of 37 fights, 19(more than half) are World title fights & out of those 19 he's ONLY lost 2!! He's been a World Champion in 2 weight classes!! He beat fighters like Hugo Cazarez(2 times), Rodel Mayor, Edagr Cardenas, Issac Bustos, Nelson Dieppa, Eduardo Marquez, Roberto Carlos Leyva who were ex-World champs & some became World champions after being defeated by Calderón & Cazares was a Champs before he fought Calderón(defended the title 6 times), he lost the World tilte to Calderón & became a World Champ after loosing to Calderón & has defended the title 5 times & is still the WBA 115lbs world champ... That right there is Calderón's & would be any other fighters ticket to the hall of fame!! Fighters with LESS credentials are already in the Hall of fame!!!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        LOLS... another puerto rican quits on his knees (j/k ricans)


        i respect all fighters though, it's just sad that people like prboxingcotto make himself look ****** with those idiotic and non-sense comments. i mean it's ok to be patriotic but if it is with some little comments degrading puerto rico's opponent, then that's bull****.

        there are a lot of rican commenters here which i respect but same thing i cannot give to prboxingcotto.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Tomasio View Post
          Out of 37 fights, 19(more than half) are World title fights & out of those 19 he's ONLY lost 2!! He's been a World Champion in 2 weight classes!! He beat fighters like Hugo Cazarez(2 times), Rodel Mayor, Edagr Cardenas, Issac Bustos, Nelson Dieppa, Eduardo Marquez, Roberto Carlos Leyva who were ex-World champs & some became World champions after being defeated by Calderón & Cazares was a Champs before he fought Calderón(defended the title 6 times), he lost the World tilte to Calderón & became a World Champ after loosing to Calderón & has defended the title 5 times & is still the WBA 115lbs world champ... That right there is Calderón's & would be any other fighters ticket to the hall of fame!! Fighters with LESS credentials are already in the Hall of fame!!!
          title fights dont mean jack **** if theyre not against top competition. fact is he only fought 3 fighters that were top ten at minimumweight, and none of them were the best in the division. He never fought Eagle Kyowa, Muhammad Rachman, or Yukuta Niida, did he? what happened to him unifying any belts?

          Cazares is a pretty good win, Ill give him that. but in no way a 'great' win. much better fighters deserve to be in the HOF than Calderon.

          Calderon definitely doesnt deserve to be in the HOF over someone like Iran Barkley...and Barkley most likely aint gettin in the HOF.
          Last edited by Steak; 04-03-2011, 03:44 AM.

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          • #15
            I don't know if Calderon needs to retire. I can't claim to know much about 108, but how many pressure monsters like Segura are there? He can fight and beat other guys.

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            • #16
              he has developed a lot since his loss to chanchilla. i can't wait to see hows he is gonna turnup in 2 years

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Fresno View Post
                Ivan does not need to retire.. He can still beat most boxers and get paid
                He still has something left, sure. But he was simply overwhelmed last night. He did OK for the first two rounds, but once Gio dug into the body, the fight was over. It almost reminded me of Pac-Morales III.

                Iron Boy has struggled the past few years, and against guys he'd have beaten 12-0 once upon a time. That he can still win and get paid shouldn't be the point when you're 36, on the very wrong side of your prime and no longer possess the gifts that made you such a standout fighter.

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                • #18
                  I would say Calderon needs 2 more fights to see what he still can do.

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                  • #19
                    I say Ivan needs two more fights before he goes, one in NYC or Atlantic City so I can see him, and one in Puerto Rico and go for good. Giovanni looked even more massive in comparison to him than the first time. I think he can still beat most fighters, but at this stage, those hungry KO artists that tower over him will just overwhelm him

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                    • #20
                      Calderon needs to retire. He has had a great career, one of the best for his division, but age has now caught up to him. His legs are just no longer there. 10 years ago he would have never allowed Segura to touch him let alone corner him.

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