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Originally posted by blackirish137 View PostCalderon is definitely not a HOF fighter. I dpnt understand how many times I have to say that. He only beat 4 top fighters his entire career. He never unified at Minimumweight. He is at a tiny weight class. What makes people think he is going to get in the HOF?
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View PostLOLS... another puerto rican quits on his knees (j/k ricans)
i respect all fighters though, it's just sad that people like prboxingcotto make himself look ****** with those idiotic and non-sense comments. i mean it's ok to be patriotic but if it is with some little comments degrading puerto rico's opponent, then that's bull****.
there are a lot of rican commenters here which i respect but same thing i cannot give to prboxingcotto.
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Originally posted by Tomasio View PostOut of 37 fights, 19(more than half) are World title fights & out of those 19 he's ONLY lost 2!! He's been a World Champion in 2 weight classes!! He beat fighters like Hugo Cazarez(2 times), Rodel Mayor, Edagr Cardenas, Issac Bustos, Nelson Dieppa, Eduardo Marquez, Roberto Carlos Leyva who were ex-World champs & some became World champions after being defeated by Calderón & Cazares was a Champs before he fought Calderón(defended the title 6 times), he lost the World tilte to Calderón & became a World Champ after loosing to Calderón & has defended the title 5 times & is still the WBA 115lbs world champ... That right there is Calderón's & would be any other fighters ticket to the hall of fame!! Fighters with LESS credentials are already in the Hall of fame!!!
Cazares is a pretty good win, Ill give him that. but in no way a 'great' win. much better fighters deserve to be in the HOF than Calderon.
Calderon definitely doesnt deserve to be in the HOF over someone like Iran Barkley...and Barkley most likely aint gettin in the HOF.Last edited by Steak; 04-03-2011, 03:44 AM.
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I don't know if Calderon needs to retire. I can't claim to know much about 108, but how many pressure monsters like Segura are there? He can fight and beat other guys.
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Originally posted by Fresno View PostIvan does not need to retire.. He can still beat most boxers and get paid
Iron Boy has struggled the past few years, and against guys he'd have beaten 12-0 once upon a time. That he can still win and get paid shouldn't be the point when you're 36, on the very wrong side of your prime and no longer possess the gifts that made you such a standout fighter.
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I say Ivan needs two more fights before he goes, one in NYC or Atlantic City so I can see him, and one in Puerto Rico and go for good. Giovanni looked even more massive in comparison to him than the first time. I think he can still beat most fighters, but at this stage, those hungry KO artists that tower over him will just overwhelm him
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Calderon needs to retire. He has had a great career, one of the best for his division, but age has now caught up to him. His legs are just no longer there. 10 years ago he would have never allowed Segura to touch him let alone corner him.
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